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post #1 of 93 (permalink) Old Sep 19th, 2019, 12:34 AM Thread Starter
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Who is greater at this moment, Osaka or Ivanovic?

Ivanovic's achievements at 21 years of age
-#1 ranking (12 weeks)
- 1 slam
- 2 slam finals
- 3 Tier I titles
- 4 Career Titles
- 72.57% W/L

Osaka
- #1 Ranking (25 weeks)
- 2 slams
- 1 Tier I title
- 3 Career Titles
- 61% W/L

Osaka W/L vs Top ten

8-10

Ivanovic W/L vs Top ten (up until 2009, 21 years)

23-18

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Re: Who is greater at this moment, Osaka or Ivanovic?

Osaka and it's not even close.

"Sometimes we've wondered if Martina actually knew what she was saying. Maybe it was her age or inexperience or something got lost in the translation. But I don't know. She comes out with something astounding and then just stares at you like, 'What did I say?' But then she'll have that glint in her eye."
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Re: Who is greater at this moment, Osaka or Ivanovic?

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Osaka and it's not even close.
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Re: Who is greater at this moment, Osaka or Ivanovic?

Lol Osaka has just started her career, Ivanovic has retired. It's not a fair comparison at this stage. FFS.
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Lol Osaka has just started her career, Ivanovic has retired. It's not a fair comparison at this stage. FFS.
This.

And the comparison is quite random. lol.
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Because of what?
Because Slam count is the most important thing and it's not like Ivanovic has come anywhere near close to the sustained success of a Conchita Martínez or Gabriela Sabatini (1 Slam each); those you could argue are greater than Osaka imo. Also I think Ivanovic's number 1 should count little or nothing because it's one of the biggest flukes in the history of tennis (Henin sends her regards).

"Sometimes we've wondered if Martina actually knew what she was saying. Maybe it was her age or inexperience or something got lost in the translation. But I don't know. She comes out with something astounding and then just stares at you like, 'What did I say?' But then she'll have that glint in her eye."
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Re: Who is greater at this moment, Osaka or Ivanovic?

i'd say about equal right now .
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Re: Who is greater at this moment, Osaka or Ivanovic?

honestly surprised at the 68% w/l stat for Ivanovic
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Re: Who is greater at this moment, Osaka or Ivanovic?

2 slams > 1 slam

Slam count is THE determining factor in greatness.

Everything else only comes into it as a tiebreaker between players on the same number of slams, or in EXTREME cases (maybe like comparing Ostapenko with Dementieva or something).

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Re: Who is greater at this moment, Osaka or Ivanovic?

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Ana Ivanovic
- #1 Ranking
- 1 slam
- 2 slam finals
- 3 Tier I titles
- Made QF of each slam
- 15 Career Titles
- 68% W/L Record

Osaka
- #1 Ranking
- 2 slams
- 1 Tier I title
- 3 Career Titles
- 61% W/L record

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An Ivanovic and Sloane or Ivanovic and Wozniacki would've been an better debate or comparisons but to answer the questions Osaka
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Re: Who is greater at this moment, Osaka or Ivanovic?

Why are we comparing these two?
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Re: Who is greater at this moment, Osaka or Ivanovic?

Such a random comparison LOL
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Re: Who is greater at this moment, Osaka or Ivanovic?

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2 slams > 1 slam

Slam count is THE determining factor in greatness.

Everything else only comes into it as a tiebreaker between players on the same number of slams, or in EXTREME cases (maybe like comparing Ostapenko with Dementieva or something).
Then you agree Court´s greater than Serena and far greater than Graf and Navratilova

Henin, Kerber, Hingis, Plíšková, Federer, Thiem
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