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has andreescu surpassed bouchard at 18 years old??

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Re: has andreescu surpassed bouchard at 18 years old??

Is that even a question? Genie achieved all of them when she was 20. Discussion closed.

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Re: has andreescu surpassed bouchard at 18 years old??

Bouchard was top 5 and made 3 slam semis in a row
In current potential for a big future she has surpassed Genie by a lot
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Re: has andreescu surpassed bouchard at 18 years old??

Well by rank and slam performance genie had more Was she just 18 in 2014? I guess so .._) BUT
Bianca has a more important title, IW, and has beat more top players, and is obviously the more complete player in terms of her game

The Big question really is how Genie managed what she did that year.
I was a beleiver in 2014. And I heard Evert, Navratilova and Wade all say "here is a future champion, slam winner, etc.
So many were wrong.

There were tell tale signs: she only performed well at slams
her movement never looked right. I was willing to forget about because of the results.

Anyway, Bianca is the real deal.
Genie was just the sex appeal and the looks and marketability and the ocassional streak of aggressive brilliance.
I think the most one can hope for with genie is top 40 ish.

But what a serving of humble pie she has had to eat.
I remember in 2014 Genie, in interviews, saying she was pissed she lost even a couple of matches a year.
Now, she is grateful to get past 1rst round. almost never does.

What a story.
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Is that even a question? Genie achieved all of them when she was 20. Discussion closed.


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Well by rank and slam performance genie had more Was she just 18 in 2014? I guess so .._) BUT
Bianca has a more important title, IW, and has beat more top players, and is obviously the more complete player in terms of her game

The Big question really is how Genie managed what she did that year.
I was a beleiver in 2014. And I heard Evert, Navratilova and Wade all say "here is a future champion, slam winner, etc.
So many were wrong.

There were tell tale signs: she only performed well at slams
her movement never looked right. I was willing to forget about because of the results.


Anyway, Bianca is the real deal.
Genie was just the sex appeal and the looks and marketability and the ocassional streak of aggressive brilliance.
I think the most one can hope for with genie is top 40 ish.

But what a serving of humble pie she has had to eat.
I remember in 2014 Genie, in interviews, saying she was pissed she lost even a couple of matches a year.
Now, she is grateful to get past 1rst round. almost never does.

What a story.
Yeah, Genie was severely overrated by the talking heads just because of 3 good GS results. And her lack of results outside of the GS was glossed over. And to be a great champion, as they thought she would be, one has to bring their best level to every tournament. It was obvious, with no consistency, this would not be sustainable for her. And as expected, this did catch up with her once she didn't have the GS results to prop her up anymore.

In terms of accomplishments, Genie still has it over, Andreescu for now. Andreescu does have the bigger title, with her Premier Mandatory dwarfing Bouchard's International MM. But Genie had the higher ranking and better GS results.

But if Bianca can stay healthy for long periods, she'll get to the top of the game and actually show up and win a GS final, as opposed to getting bageled.

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Re: has andreescu surpassed bouchard at 18 years old??

Nice try honey, but no. Let's see Bianca do something of note in the slams and then we'll talk.
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Re: has andreescu surpassed bouchard at 18 years old??

Also she's 19, not 18. If you're going to jump on the bandwagon you should at least know the age of your new favourite player.
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Re: has andreescu surpassed bouchard at 18 years old??

Yes. She's won Indian Wells and well on her way to win another big title. Bouchard has 1 international title which she vultured during that one hot summer she had in 2014.
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Yes. She's won Indian Wells and well on her way to win another big title. Bouchard has 1 international title which she vultured during that one hot summer she had in 2014.
Beating Karolina Pliskova in a WTA final isn't "vulturing." Kerber, Svitolina, Garcia and Bencic were in that draw too.
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Beating Karolina Pliskova in a WTA final isn't "vulturing." Kerber, Svitolina, Garcia and Bencic were in that draw too.
That's cute but it's still vastly inferior to what Bianca has managed to do at her age, and - crucially - continues to do.

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That's cute but it's still vastly inferior to what Bianca has managed to do at her age, and - crucially - continues to do.
Keep telling yourself that.
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Keep telling yourself that.
I don't have to tell myself anything, the facts are right there on paper for you to see
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Re: has andreescu surpassed bouchard at 18 years old??

Regarding their biggest achievement being an Indian Wells title vs Wimbledon final, it reminds me a bit of this thread from last year.

https://www.tennisforum.com/12-gener...gs-f-lose.html

I guess the Toronto final does add significant weight, and if she wins it, then it will be a lot clearer.
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