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Will Simona Halep wind up as year end #1 three years in a row?

I know it's still early in the year to kind of be thinking about it but if Simona keeps being consistent, meaning not falling in early rounds in any tournament, it would be totally possible for her to finish this year as #1 again. I know she has to defend her title in Canada and finals in Cincinnati but after that she has literally ZERO points to defend because she fell early in New York, Wuhan and Beijing and she didn't even played in the YEC. So , I think it is very possible for her to reach #1. That would be a feat!
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If she wins US Open and another 2 tournaments probably. She can surpass Osaka and Pliskova, but with Barty it's a different story. She will need US Open combined with 2 tournaments, if Ash also makes points.
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in live wta race, Simo is 2nd, just 400 points behind Barty so she's in a pretty good position to end year as #1
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to get past Barty she just needs to win around 500 more points than Barty till the end of the year
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Re: Will Simona Halep wind up as year end #1 three years in a row?

Her big advantage is having zero points to defend in the last quarter of the season starting with the US Open, so if she does well in Toronto and Cincinnati (defend at least 1000 points) she is one of the big favorites to take the top spot by the end of the year. Nothing to defend at the USO, Wuhan and Beijing is a big deal, but even bigger is she didn't play last year at the WTA finals and that's what, 375 points just for showing up?

But really none of what happened last year matters in the end, it's all about the race and right now she is in 2nd there. So yes, if she keeps her Wimbledon form up (although transition to hard from grass is not exactly easy) she is one of the big favorites. I think the race will end up being between her, Barty and Pliskova. I really REALLY wish I could throw Petra's name in there too, but we all know her relationship with the US Open. If she can surprise us during the Asian swing then she can absolutely get back in the race (of course depending on who wins the US Open, because if it's one of Barty, Halep or Pliskova, that could be it for the race).

It should be an interesting battle that could be made even more so depending who wins the US Open (can Osaka repeat? can Pliskova finally win her first slam? will it be someone else we won't see coming beforehand?). And yes, to answer the question she is right now one of the top 3 favorites to win the Race and possibly finish as the year-end number 1 again.
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Her big advantage is having zero points to defend in the last quarter of the season starting with the US Open, so if she does well in Toronto and Cincinnati (defend at least 1000 points) she is one of the big favorites to take the top spot by the end of the year. Nothing to defend at the USO, Wuhan and Beijing is a big deal, but even bigger is she didn't play last year at the WTA finals and that's what, 375 points just for showing up?

But really none of what happened last year matters in the end, it's all about the race and right now she is in 2nd there. So yes, if she keeps her Wimbledon form up (although transition to hard from grass is not exactly easy) she is one of the big favorites. I think the race will end up being between her, Barty and Pliskova. I really REALLY wish I could throw Petra's name in there too, but we all know her relationship with the US Open. If she can surprise us during the Asian swing then she can absolutely get back in the race (of course depending on who wins the US Open, because if it's one of Barty, Halep or Pliskova, that could be it for the race).

It should be an interesting battle that could be made even more so depending who wins the US Open (can Osaka repeat? can Pliskova finally win her first slam? will it be someone else we won't see coming beforehand?). And yes, to answer the question she is right now one of the top 3 favorites to win the Race and possibly finish as the year-end number 1 again.

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Ashleigh Barty 23.2 AUS1 4885 - - - - - -
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Simona Halep 27.7 ROU1 4427 - - - - - -
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Karolína Plíšková 27.3 CZE1 4166 - - - - - -
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Petra Kvitová 29.3 CZE2 3765 - - - - - -
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Kiki Bertens 27.5 NED1 3276 - - - - - -
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Naomi Osaka 21.7 JPN1 3156 - - - - - -
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Belinda Bencic 22.3 SUI1 2758 - - - - - -
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Johanna Konta 28.1 GBR1 2448 - - - - - -
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Markéta Vondroušová 20 CZE3 2390 - - - - - -
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Elina Svitolina 24.8 UKR1 2289
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Re: Will Simona Halep wind up as year end #1 three years in a row?

Some people understimate this achievement. Actually it's much tougher, than winning some random slam in 2-3 years.
I think, if Simona has 3 slams and 3 Year-end #1, she will be greater, than Pova
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Her big advantage is having zero points to defend in the last quarter of the season starting with the US Open, so if she does well in Toronto and Cincinnati (defend at least 1000 points) she is one of the big favorites to take the top spot by the end of the year. Nothing to defend at the USO, Wuhan and Beijing is a big deal, but even bigger is she didn't play last year at the WTA finals and that's what, 375 points just for showing up?

But really none of what happened last year matters in the end, it's all about the race and right now she is in 2nd there. So yes, if she keeps her Wimbledon form up (although transition to hard from grass is not exactly easy) she is one of the big favorites. I think the race will end up being between her, Barty and Pliskova. I really REALLY wish I could throw Petra's name in there too, but we all know her relationship with the US Open. If she can surprise us during the Asian swing then she can absolutely get back in the race (of course depending on who wins the US Open, because if it's one of Barty, Halep or Pliskova, that could be it for the race).

It should be an interesting battle that could be made even more so depending who wins the US Open (can Osaka repeat? can Pliskova finally win her first slam? will it be someone else we won't see coming beforehand?). And yes, to answer the question she is right now one of the top 3 favorites to win the Race and possibly finish as the year-end number 1 again.

current race rankings

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Ashleigh Barty 23.2 AUS1 4885 - - - - - -
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Simona Halep 27.7 ROU1 4427 - - - - - -
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Karolína Plíšková 27.3 CZE1 4166 - - - - - -
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Petra Kvitová 29.3 CZE2 3765 - - - - - -
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Kiki Bertens 27.5 NED1 3276 - - - - - -
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Naomi Osaka 21.7 JPN1 3156 - - - - - -
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Belinda Bencic 22.3 SUI1 2758 - - - - - -
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Johanna Konta 28.1 GBR1 2448 - - - - - -
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Markéta Vondroušová 20 CZE3 2390 - - - - - -
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Elina Svitolina 24.8 UKR1 2289
I'm actually talking about the regular ranking ,not the race to the YEC. I think that Barty and Simona are basically in already.
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in live wta race, Simo is 2nd, just 400 points behind Barty so she's in a pretty good position to end year as #1
But some people are confusing it, you must end on the general rankings as world No 1 to end the year No 1. The Race is only important for Singapore.
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Some people understimate this achievement. Actually it's much tougher, than winning some random slam in 2-3 years.
I think, if Simona has 3 slams and 3 Year-end #1, she will be greater, than Pova
You get a prize from the WTA, it's as important as the WTA Player of the Year award in my opinion. The achievements are huge.
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But some people are confusing it, you must end on the general rankings as world No 1 to end the year No 1. The Race is only important for Singapore.
You're the one that's confused. The year ends with Shenzen (NOT Singapore). The Race gets you there and the season ends with the WTA Finals in Shenzen. Excuse my French but the points from 2018 don't mean shit for the YE number 1 in 2019. Race keeps track of only the points made by a player this season, that's where you look at for questions such as 'who will wind up year-end number 1 in year X', you look at the points for year X and only year X.
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Some people understimate this achievement. Actually it's much tougher, than winning some random slam in 2-3 years.
I think, if Simona has 3 slams and 3 Year-end #1, she will be greater, than Pova
I totally agree. Winning a slam means you're hot for two weeks, and then you'll be cold the rest of the year like has happened with Muguruza. Being a a YEC means consistency, doing well week in and week out, and that takes a much bigger effort. And that's something that only Simona has been able to do in the last five years. NO OTHER player has been able to stay in the top 10 since 2014 as Simona has. Granted, at her peak, Serena was a solid #1 but then she got pregnant and had to take time off. And regarding to Sharapova's , I'd rather take Simona's achievements any day because they were reach by playing fair. Sharapova is a doper and her records will always and asterisk by them.
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But some people are confusing it, you must end on the general rankings as world No 1 to end the year No 1. The Race is only important for Singapore.
You're the one that's confused. The year ends with Shenzen (NOT Singapore). The Race gets you there and the season ends with the WTA Finals in Shenzen. Excuse my French but the points from 2018 don't mean shit for the YE number 1 in 2019. Race keeps track of only the points made by a player this season, that's where you look at for questions such as 'who will wind up year-end number 1 in year X', you look at the points for year X and only year X.
No, you're wrong. The Year #1 is decided by the regular rankings NOT by the race to Shenzen. A clear example of it was last year where Simona could not even compete in Singapore and still she held off on #1 because she had a very good year before the Asian swing.
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You're the one that's confused. The year ends with Shenzen (NOT Singapore). The Race gets you there and the season ends with the WTA Finals in Shenzen. Excuse my French but the points from 2018 don't mean shit for the YE number 1 in 2019. Race keeps track of only the points made by a player this season, that's where you look at for questions such as 'who will wind up year-end number 1 in year X', you look at the points for year X and only year X.
Ok, yes, it was moved to Shenzen. but YEAR-END doesn't mean Race. It means general (regular) rankings.

Year-End = WTA Rankings, not Race. This is what Halep has achieved for 2 seasons.
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You're the one that's confused. The year ends with Shenzen (NOT Singapore). The Race gets you there and the season ends with the WTA Finals in Shenzen. Excuse my French but the points from 2018 don't mean shit for the YE number 1 in 2019. Race keeps track of only the points made by a player this season, that's where you look at for questions such as 'who will wind up year-end number 1 in year X', you look at the points for year X and only year X.
Ok, yes, it was moved to Shenzen. but YEAR-END doesn't mean Race. It means general (regular) rankings.

Year-End = WTA Rankings, not Race. This is what Halep has achieved for 2 seasons.
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