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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old Jul 14th, 2019, 08:42 AM Thread Starter
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Whose peak was more impressive in the last two Wimbledon finals?

Both Halep and Kerber obviously peaked for the final against Serena. So whose was more impressive?

2018 Wimbledon final - Kerber def. Serena 6-3 6-3
2019 Wimbledon final - Halep def. Serena 6-2 6-2

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Halep. Serena was playing better this year than last year Wimbledon, IMO. Well, she was in better shape this year.
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Halep she was amazing.
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Simona. Kerber just lucked out.
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Re: Whose peak was more impressive in the last two Wimbledon finals?

Last year I felt Kerber was head & shoulders above the rest of the competition during the fortnight overall , including Serena.

I didnít get that vibe from Halep this year.. until the final where she put in one of the best performances of her life. So in terms of who peaked in the final match alone I would say Halep.
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Both did a great job

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Re: Whose peak was more impressive in the last two Wimbledon finals?

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Last year I felt Kerber was head & shoulders above the rest of the competition during the fortnight overall , including Serena.

I didnít get that vibe from Halep this year.. until the final where she put in one of the best performances of her life. So in terms of who peaked in the final match alone I would say Halep.
Because you didn't watch her because everyone was so busy underestimating her.

It's kind of ridiculous how similar their runs are, both won every match but the one in R2 in straight sets, but actually Halep's wins were consistently more dominant. And before the final she actually found herself behind a break in 3 of those 6 matches at the start of set 1 (all matches she won in straights, which shows her head was in the right place from the start). Kerber did that just once against Bencic in R4 (also won in straights).

Kerber lost 55 games overall in 15 sets played, Halep lost 44 games in the same number of sets.

I know, right? I had to count that four times to make sure it was right. That's 2.93 games lost per set to Kerber's 3.66. Going from Halep to Kerber that's a 25% increase, at this level that's pretty big.

And then when you look at both finals you can see that extra bit Halep had. I mean they both dominated Serena, but at least against Angie she looked like she could get back at one point in the first set (when she broke back to make it level and then held for 3-2 in her favor, which was also the last game she won in that set). Against Simona that was never on the table as she didn't break the Halep serve once.
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Kerber beat 100kg Serena, while this year she was in great shape, but Simona outplayed her
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Kerber beat 100kg Serena, while this year she was in great shape, but Simona outplayed her
Of course. I would say this was peak Williams in her best physical shape and last year was the worst Williams ever.
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Kerber beat 100kg Serena, while this year she was in great shape, but Simona outplayed her
No Serena wasn't in "great shape" this year. And she made even more UEs than in last year's final.
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Re: Whose peak was more impressive in the last two Wimbledon finals?

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No Serena wasn't in "great shape" this year. And she made even more UEs than in last year's final.
Did you ever consider that you can be in great physical shape and still make loads of UEs?
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Re: Whose peak was more impressive in the last two Wimbledon finals?

Kerberís performance was great in the last yearsí final but she did not peak. She played within herself and executed her strategy perfectly.

Halep, on the other hand, transformed into a great champion yesterday and played out of her skin which is a totally different experience. She now knows what she is capable of and will achieve quite a lot more on this level.

Kerberís defining peak performance was against Azarenka at the 2016 Australian Open.
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Re: Whose peak was more impressive in the last two Wimbledon finals?

Halep by far. You almost got the sense mid-match that Serena didn't want to play Simona anymore.

She knew that even if she absolutely thumped the ball, landing several huge blows consecutively, Simona could handle it. She knew that if she approached the net, Simona would pass her. She knew that if she hit a good serve, Simona would be able to return it well enough to at least reset the point. She sure as hell knew that if the point went beyond 5 or 6 strikes, she would be quickly outmaneuvered and left gasping for air. All that was left for her to do was overcook winner attempts and dump easy balls into the net.

I don't think anyone expected Simona to play this well, and that kind of tennis is a horrible match-up for a 37 year old Serena.

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Re: Whose peak was more impressive in the last two Wimbledon finals?

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Did you ever consider that you can be in great physical shape and still make loads of UEs?
And it couldn't possibly be, I don't know, maybe because Halep was playing out of her damn mind, forcing Serena to hit too many 1% shots, which made her increasingly more frustrated when they of course wouldn't land. Serena was 80% on 1st serve in that first set, 80%, hitting within her average speed of the tournament, yet she still lost that set 2-6. In short that was the story of the match, if Serena couldn't make a dent when she was serving great, she was dead in the water in the 2nd when her percentage on 1st serve dropped to only 59%. And by the way, that can still be okay for Serena, she's won easily with worse number than that, but against Halep yesterday 80% wasn't cutting it, 59% was just nothing. That stuff is really demoralizing, even for a player as tough mentally as Serena is, and you could see exactly in the 2nd set where she accepted her fate, which almost never happens with Serena, especially in a Grand Slam final.
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Re: Whose peak was more impressive in the last two Wimbledon finals?

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Did you ever consider that you can be in great physical shape and still make loads of UEs?
Sure. Regardless she wasn't in great physical shape this year.
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