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Halep's ankle - the Achilles heel of success?



Every time she has an ankle scare prior to or starting a slam, she has made the final of that said slam...

2017 (ankle roll in Rome F, makes RG F)
2018 (ankle roll in R1 AO, makes F)
2019 (ankle slip in Wimbledon R1, makes F)

Of course the bad news for her is she lost the final the two times it happened in the past, but who would have thought such a correlation would exist?


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Interesting....let's see if that would mean she'd lose to Barbie in the final.
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My achilles heel,------- is my achilles heel.
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Every time she has an ankle scare prior to or starting a slam, she has made the final of that said slam...

2017 (ankle roll in Rome F, makes RG F)
2018 (ankle roll in R1 AO, makes F)
2019 (ankle slip in Wimbledon R1, makes F)

Of course the bad news for her is she lost the final the two times it happened in the past, but who would have thought such a correlation would exist?

She's then forced to play more aggressively, and that improves her tennis.
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She also hurt her ankle at 2014 Wimbledon and managed to lose to Eugene Bouchard.

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She also hurt her ankle at 2014 Wimbledon and managed to lose to Eugene Bouchard.
Then she was thinking of immediate stopping, but she had a big lead in the 1st set and decided to continue. Couldn't win the match (couldn't move). Went back to Romania for medical investigations. Fortunately, she only needed some rest for recovery.
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Halep fans have always clung onto and exaggerated everytime she rolls and breaks her ankle, as an excuse if she loses early. What else is new?

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Halep fans have always clung onto and exaggerated everytime she rolls and breaks her ankle, as an excuse if she loses early. What else is new?
Well, it is so "obvious" that for a player who is typically running 10-20% more in order to wear her lesser fit opponents down, and who makes half of her winners on-the-run, the status of her ankle is irrelevant...
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Then she was thinking of immediate stopping, but she had a big lead in the 1st set and decided to continue. Couldn't win the match (couldn't move). Went back to Romania for medical investigations. Fortunately, she only needed some rest for recovery.
How was 2*-1 a big lead?

Oh, as if you had no choice? There's a moment, there's always a moment, "I can do this, I can give into this, or I can resist it", and I don't know when your moment was, but I bet you there was one.
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How was 2*-1 a big lead?
Haven't you seen the Halep-Svitolina match?!? Halep was leading to 2-1 in the 1st set, after GIFTING her 2nd service game to Svitolina (at this point she had NO break advantage), and still the match was already over. (Well, this time Simona hasn't suffered an injury.)

On the other hand: when Zhang was leading to 4-1 to Simona in the 1st set, was that a big lead? No. Why is this virtual "logical discrepancy"?!?
The thing is determined by the maximum level that a girl can play when it is needed. With a +2 AM/game advantage the player can regularly come back from being 1-5 down, while if a player can play above +3 AM/game, it is almost impossible to beat her. (But if I remember well, you NEVER took the effort to understand how the AM/game is calculated and why it is important.)

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Haven't you seen the Halep-Svitolina match?!? Halep was leading to 2-1 in the 1st set, after GIFTING her 2nd service game to Svitolina (at this point she had NO break advantage), and still the match was already over. (Well, this time Simona hasn't suffered an injury.)

On the other hand: when Zhang was leading to 4-1 to Simona in the 1st set, was that a big lead? No. Why is this virtual "logical discrepancy"?!?
The thing is determined by the maximum level that a girl can play when it is needed. With a +2 AM/game advantage the player can regularly come back from being 1-5 down, while if a player can play above +3 AM/game, it is almost impossible to beat her. (But if I remember well, you NEVER took the effort to understand how the AM/game is calculated and why it is important.)
Do you also remember well that no one really gives a flying rat about the whole AM/game thing?

Oh, as if you had no choice? There's a moment, there's always a moment, "I can do this, I can give into this, or I can resist it", and I don't know when your moment was, but I bet you there was one.
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Do you also remember well that no one really gives a flying rat about the whole AM/game thing?
Why do you think that I didn't know that only the smartest people can understand the smartest things?!?
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Why do you think that I didn't know that only the smartest people can understand the smartest things?!?
I donít care why you didnít know that.

Oh, as if you had no choice? There's a moment, there's always a moment, "I can do this, I can give into this, or I can resist it", and I don't know when your moment was, but I bet you there was one.
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I donít care why you didnít know that.
Well, some people say that 2.86 > 2.50, and 1.75 > 1.0 - but don't bother you with these "extremely complicated" things.
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third time lucky! comes out champion this time.

Well done to Simona Halep on finally achieving her GS dream at RG. Never say die!

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