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Halep was #1 and the FO favorite all last spring and won the major
I'm not sure what it means, but its true that #1 and favorite dont usually mix in modern WTA
Osaka situation a little unusual because she got to #1 by winning 2 majors but only 3 titles. Its so unique, most other #1s have a lot of titles

WTA has several players who never won any title when they were ranked #1. We will see what Barty does while she has it

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It depends on the surface, ranking is secondary. For example, No.1 Pliskova would never be favorite at Roland Garros. Osaka can only play on hard courts. No.12 ranked player in the world Sevastova is priced 81.00 which is outside top 30 because she can't play on grass etc.
I can get Sevastova for 180 (if I wanted to). I never get why people bet with bookmakers who offer poor odds, when they could get much better odds elsewhere. In particular when it comes to non-favourites. But anyway, the real 'market value' for Sevastova winning Wimbledon (without overrounds) is 190-200. And for Barty, about 6 yes.
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I'm curious as to why Kerber's given such low odds, considering that she's the defending champ and 2016 RU.

As for the OP's question, I don't think it matters at all, be it at Wimbledon or any tournament, for that matter.
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I can get Sevastova for 180 (if I wanted to). I never get why people bet with bookmakers who offer poor odds, when they could get much better odds elsewhere. In particular when it comes to non-favourites. But anyway, the real 'market value' for Sevastova winning Wimbledon (without overrounds) is 190-200. And for Barty, about 6 yes.
I was taking average numbers from odds checking website, there are plenty, not looking for highest number. And there is no way in hell Sevastova will ever win a Slam, and definitely not one played on grass, so there is no value for Sevastova at Wimbledon where she has won a grand total of 1 match and that was against fellow clay courter Putintseva.
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History is against Barty winning Wimbledon. Tournament Winners at B'ham & Eastbourne haven't done really well at Wimby in the last few years.
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There are five favorites for Wimbledon to me:

Barty, Kvitova, Bencic, Konta, Riske.

I cannot see anyone else with a serious chance.

Who cares of hypertrophic weapons when the player on the court moves like music?
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I was taking average numbers from odds checking website, there are plenty, not looking for highest number. And there is no way in hell Sevastova will ever win a Slam, and definitely not one played on grass, so there is no value for Sevastova at Wimbledon where she has won a grand total of 1 match and that was against fellow clay courter Putintseva.
I stop to use "No way" regarding to WTA players. Ashley did not pass in her previous 5 attempts 2nd round in RG & her stats were 2-5 for this tournament.

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I stop to use "No way" regarding to WTA players. Ashley did not pass in her previous 5 attempts 2nd round in RG & her stats were 2-5 for this tournament.
Barty is totally different comparing to Sevastova because was expected to have a big Slam some time but not necessarily at Roland Garros, more like at Wimbledon because of her grass court skills. However, RG opened up big time with nobody of usual suspects being fit or interested of winning. Ash just took advantage of incredible circumstances. She did not face a single top 10 player and only 1 was inside top 30 which is BBB Keys. The are tougher paths to MM title wins. That's a luck you need to win big event on your worst surface. Not only that, she had a bye in the final against frozen Marketa. Even Konta made SF, she had 0-4 record before RG. That's how big of joke that tournament turned out to be.
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the bookies may have barty as favourite, but i doubt if she will make it to the second week.

there is so much more pressure on her to perform here then at paris, where there was no talk about her winning.
she has only ever won 2 singles matches at wimbledon in her career.

sure she's playing at her highest level ever, but i think there are other players who have a better chance.( i reckon at least 20 players would think they can win if they get a good draw. kerber, serena, pliskova, halep, bertens,among some)

i certainly will not be betting on anyone, i don't want to lose my money.
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There are five favorites for Wimbledon to me:

Barty, Kvitova, Bencic, Konta, Riske.

I cannot see anyone else with a serious chance.
You clearly haven't learned from the recent RG, have you?
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There are five favorites for Wimbledon to me:



Barty, Kvitova, Bencic, Konta, Riske.



I cannot see anyone else with a serious chance.

Iím too lazy too search the archives but arenít you the same person who said there was no other possible RG final but Bertens vs. Halep? When will you learn????


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arenít you the same person who said there was no other possible RG final but Bertens vs. Halep?
Nope.

Who cares of hypertrophic weapons when the player on the court moves like music?
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You clearly haven't learned from the recent RG, have you?
I did, since I mentionned Barty.

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How important? Somewhere between "Not one squirrel's fart of an iota" and "Who gives a flying fuck?"

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How important is it that the world #1 is also favorite for Wimbledon title?

In the bigger scheme of things....it is extremely unimportant I'd say. Global warming is important. Getting rid of nationalist governments is important. Having the number one seed at Wimbledon also be the bookmakers favourite? Much less so.

Having said that, it is nice that Ash is getting the respect that she deserves and it is fitting that Ash is the bookmakers favourite as she is playing better tennis than anyone else right now.
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