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I was only interested in stats and the violence is not nearly as polarized gender-wise as is often presented.
The manufactured polarization seems to be employed as a political tool rather than as a genuine attempt to address the issue and have healthier families.
Being shot and killed is violence where is the manufactured polarization of stating

About every 16 hours, a woman is shot and killed by a former or current partner in the USA?

Unless you have the time and energy to call out all injustice - which most people do not.

I asking all men to give their 1st bit of energy to the injustice affecting the most number of humans - which is women.

Is that an unreasonable request on a Women's Tennis Forum?
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Liking a post on IG is not an act of hate.

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Don't even want to waste much words on this

Will mark her down as homophobes and blacklist her
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Being shot and killed is violence where is the manufactured polarization of stating

About every 16 hours, a woman is shot and killed by a former or current partner in the USA?

Unless you have the time and energy to call out all injustice - which most people do not.

I asking all men to give their 1st bit of energy to the injustice affecting the most number of humans - which is women.

Is that an unreasonable request on a Women's Tennis Forum?
Certainly, reducing suffering and injustice is a worthy cause (and you have a right to advocate for whomever you wish).
But you came into this thread essentially disapproving of the attention given to the suffering of OTHER people whose plight you happen not to care about.
Therefore, I felt the need to inject a little perspective.
There is a lot of suffering going around, not only the suffering that interests you personally.
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Shouldn't the cartoon have portrayed stereotypically Muslim-looking characters? Then it would have rung much more true.
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In the US, there are christian sects who promote hatred towards gays. The best known is the Westboro Baptist Church, which runs the website godhatesfags.com (that domain name sums up their argument)

Brilliant example of false equivalency. Westboro Baptist Church represents a sliver of a sliver of a sliver of religious people in the U.S. whereas homophobia is deeply ingrained in the fabric of Muslim countries.
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Being shot and killed is violence where is the manufactured polarization of stating

About every 16 hours, a woman is shot and killed by a former or current partner in the USA?

Unless you have the time and energy to call out all injustice - which most people do not.

I asking all men to give their 1st bit of energy to the injustice affecting the most number of humans - which is women.

Is that an unreasonable request on a Women's Tennis Forum?
He's the type of person, I bet, who deplores the term "toxic masculinity", yet abhors the public treatment of male domestic violence victims.
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Certainly, reducing suffering and injustice is a worthy cause (and you have a right to advocate for whomever you wish).
But you came into this thread essentially disapproving of the attention given to the suffering of OTHER people whose plight you happen not to care about.
Therefore, I felt the need to inject a little perspective.
There is a lot of suffering going around, not only the suffering that interests you personally.
Projection on your part.

My first post (below) in this thread was to point out the fact that Sexism is the cause of more actual violence and death to humans then Homophobia was getting more push back the Sexism on this forum.

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A woman liking a post which was critical of 8 category of "sins" (1/8 being homosexuality) gets more push back for it then those actually calling women's tennis inferior to men's tennis on a Women's Tennis Forum.

Sexism is bigger problem then Homophobia, homosexuals can be safe in the closet and still carry on their life without danger, there is no such closet for Women.

About every 16 hours, a woman is shot and killed by a former or current partner in the USA.

In the United States, more than one in three women report experiencing abuse from a partner in their lifetime.1 The effects of this abuse are far-reaching, impacting not only individual victims, but also their families, their communities, and our economy. When domestic abusers have access to guns, the effects can be deadly. This nexus between guns and domestic violence makes the US the most dangerous country for women compared to other high-income countries.

USA is no worse then rest of the World.

Shame on all men but particularly on all those men who give more push back against homophobia then they do on Sexism. Including those like George Clooney.
In response to this you made some red-herring posts about under reporting and said that violence is female vs male very similar.

About every 16 hours, a woman is shot and killed by a former or current partner in the USA

More men in a Women Tennis Forum are calling out homophobia then Sexism.

I came into this thread as I thought it was a shame that justice meter in men was triggered in this Forum (not thread) by a women's (unproven?) homophobia more then other men's actual sexism.
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I'm gay, but I just went and liked that post on IG.
Cuz you’re a drama queen... That’s pretty simple to explain.
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Israel Folau's homophobic statements have been top sports news recently in Australia, so I think his IG followers know that he's extremely controversial (to put it mildly)

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Israel...nd_controversy
When this news broke, all his colleagues were judged based on who liked the post. Because liking it basically meant you stood in solidarity with him against his termination.

Those saying we shouldn't judge her for a 'like' are being facetious. Lots of people were for this particular picture. He's apparently preaching sermons with homophobic views now too? So he's doubling down. She unliked the pic for what it's worth.
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He's the type of person, I bet, who deplores the term "toxic masculinity", yet abhors the public treatment of male domestic violence victims.
Once you realise someone's arguing in bad faith, leave them be. You're wasting your life energy.
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Brilliant example of false equivalency. Westboro Baptist Church represents a sliver of a sliver of a sliver of religious people in the U.S. whereas homophobia is deeply ingrained in the fabric of Muslim countries.
It's more to do with culture than the religion. I come from a country in Africa with a 50-50 Christian to Muslim population where Christians hate gay people as much as Muslims and elected representatives passed legislation with unanimous support criminalizing homosexual unions/relationships with 14 years imprisonment.
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The two biggest religions on earth are Christianity and Islam, between them they have 4 billion followers, over half the world's population, both of these religions are essentially, Anti-Gay and deliver Anti Gay messages within their religious texts, there are many tennis players past and present who belong to these religions who think exactly the same way as Court and Falou, why wouldn't they if they are Christians or Muslims? it's what it teaches them, therefore if you think some top players are Not Anti Gay simply because they've never come out and said so then you are naive. Margeret Court and Falou are/were simply relaying their beliefs based on their religion and anyone criticising and haranguing them for stating what their religion has taught them is also criticising half the world and many other prominent tennis stars.

For what it's worth as a straight person who is not religious....I think there's already too much hate in the world to tell two people not to be together because they're the same sex, you cannot deny what you are, it's not a choice it's your natural.

There's no point taking exception to the likes of Court/Falou because you might as well go straight to the source and start criticising the two major religions, they're simply 2 of 3.9999999 billion followers who think the same way.
This is garbage as are half the replies on this thread and the moderators should be ashamed for letting such homophobia and trans-phobia run rampant on the forum.

I know many Christians, and I am sure there are Muslims too who ARE tolerant. Whilst I don't think certain hardcore religious helps ANYONE this post is so uneducated.
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Liking homophobic posts and telling someone to get focked when confronted about it is definitely important, Mauriac. Why on earth would she do that? Personally I don't supervise what people like or not, but since someone saw it and brought to public attention, it's pretty revealing of who the girl is and I don't think she should get a pass until (if) she explains it.
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I agree that it's not important until it starts promoting hate speech. Which Aiava did and when comfronted brushed away the problem..

Maybe she should've spent more time on the practice court and less on instagram cause Di Giuseppe took care of her in Wimbledon Q1 in 2 sets, so she'll have plenty of time to join a Homophobic Rally in her time off.
The point is that if everyone treated Facebook 'likes' with the lack of seriousness they deserve, especially when made by by a 19 year old who hardly anyone has heard of, there would be nothing to get upset about. If everyone got into a state very time someone likes a post they themselves found offensive the world would be in a state of total and permanent meltdown.

I'm gay and I have not got into a state by this, which to me seems utterly trivial and only an issue because someone has spotted it and made it into a drama. I was brought up in a pre-Facebook world and in the place I came from it it was very difficult to even admit to being gay, so the idea of people getting upset over this is incomprehensible to me.

There are so many much more important issues involving homophobia and other forms of discrimination and bigotry and if everyone spends their time and energy getting excited about a Facebook 'like' the bigger issues are less likely to be addressed.
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Policing sports players' social media trying to dig up "dirt" that doesn't fit their agenda is a dick move.
Another trash reply. This post is a dick move. Homophobes don't get a pass ever.
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Um...not sure what the problem is. It is actually written in the bible that people who engage in those things are sinners and going to hell. She "liked" it...she isnt wrong for liking the post. In fact, I think the person targeting her is bullying her and being intolerant of her religious views.
Oh god, another trash homophobic reply. Moderators? Anyone?
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