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Re: Will Barty be one of the most consistent #1s in history?

I don’t think she will dominate the tour but at this point it’s looking as though she will be at least more consistent than her predecessor, given that’s not a much of challenge mind you.

It would be nice to see a world no.1 that doesn’t lose 6/4 6/2 and 6/2 6/3 to players ranked well outside the top 20 so I’m hoping Ashleigh will be at least consistent, if not spectacular.
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Re: Will Barty be one of the most consistent #1s in history?

She has been consistent for quite a while now, more consistent than usual in this "deep" era, but I think it is stretching too far for that assumption.

Evert and then Navratilova won everything left and right for years, so did Graf. If she proves to be that consistent for another 52 weeks, I am willing to talk.

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Re: Will Barty be one of the most consistent #1s in history?

To second what everyone's said, Chris Evert played 56 majors and lost before the SFs only 4 times (twice in the QF), so it's a tough task.

In fact, it would be an interesting exercise to go through the list of YE #1 players to see what their results were that season. # of losses, slam record, # of titles, etc. Don't have the time now, but I'll make a project of it sometime soon.
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Hard to say. So far she is very consistent against scrubs and lower-ranks mostly, but when it's come to the top players, she doesn't have much success against them.

Time will tell when she has to face them weeks after weeks.
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Re: Will Barty be one of the most consistent #1s in history?

IN HISTORY???...there have been many consistent #1s in history...maybe in recent history???.....
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Re: Will Barty be one of the most consistent #1s in history?

She's flying under the radar (!) and seems very stable but we'll have to wait and see what happens when she faces in-form "top" players in the later stages of a Grand Slam. She's the favourite to win Wimbledon, though.

She won't draw in too many new fans but the number one ranking could regain some credibility with her.
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Re: Will Barty be one of the most consistent #1s in history?

Maybe we forget, but there actually have been some pretty consistent number ones in the WTA before so Barty will have her work cut out for her.
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She will lose matches, especially if opponents are playing great.

However her game form will not drop.
I have watched Ash for many years and never seen her regress.
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Re: Will Barty be one of the most consistent #1s in history?

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She is still nowhere near the standard of many legends of the game, but she has some similarities...

Players who have won RG and their next event on British grass:

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Justine was Den Bosch, I think technically. So grass but not British grass.

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I say yes because she seems so mentally stable. Nothing really bothers her and she’s not prone to outbursts. She can keep her emotions in check, which is a huge strength. She also carries a manly kind of confidence and coolness about her, which none of the other female players have
Yep, she’s very well spoken and will command the respect of that now (more) that she has the weight of the rank behind her as well...

Also the longer she is able to stay at the top, the fewer tough players (theoretically) she will have to play to stay there, and with being consistent she will be able to make better use of that rank more that some others who have been number one in the past...
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Will Barty be one of the most consistent #1s in history?

I think she will keep a consistent level, and be mentally strong.

However I suspect she will have a pretty limited window of effectiveness to remain at the top of the rankings and contend for slams.

She is very tactically smart and technically consistent, but she is small and lacks weapons. Her biggest advantage is that she is a very, very bad matchup for all these flat-hitting power players. We’ve seen how she can still struggle against players like Mladanovic.

I wonder if she will end up a little Hingis-like in that regard (i.e. brief dominance followed by the game changing and not being able to adjust).

Not that Hingis was inconsistent! I imagine Ash would be very happy if she got anywhere near Martina’s career.
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Re: Will Barty be one of the most consistent #1s in history?

I would love it. However, I need to see first, how will Ash cope with that new status especially against elite players. It's not like she can't beat TOP players of the game as she showed in Miami but still ... she did not face or beat TOP10 player from April Fed Cup. I'm curious ...

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Justine was Den Bosch, I think technically. So grass but not British grass.
Henin won Eastbourne in 2006 and 2007 after winning the French.

She won den Bosch in 2001 (didn't win the French) and 2010 (ditto).
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Sometimes she gets back and arm injuries because of her serve, she doesn't have the height to bluff through aces. The pressure of being number is also a bit different, she won't only run to the courts to practice, there are PR events, and whatever her agent has up his sleeve. Surely she won't end up with only Vegemite and Fila. I also want her to take on Serena like she did Sharapova.
Sharapova was barely playing at 60% of her power and her serve was getting weaker and weaker by the end of that match. Seriously. Check that match again. Barty played great but Sharapova was not even close to the level she was playing at in set one or the previous matches...she was playing really weird.
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