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I cant help feeling that lots of TF members dislike Zhang due to her "stereotype" Chinese personality
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They do publicly sh*t themselves on the floor/road/train station as far as I'm concerned.
They let their children pee on the floor at the air terminals too And not only in China where I guess it is seen as somewhat acceptable.

In any case they should be the last ones to correct the manners of others. I read that the Japanese have limited their trips Taiwan as tourists since the Chinese masses overflooded this place. Obviously not all Chinese are like this, but if it's anywhere above 10% of them then it can be a problem. In their own country they don't respect things like standing in queues.



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I don't suppose Zhang's public mud slinging after victory will help Swan's confidence somehow. Why does a 30 year old feel the need to berate a 20 year old girl on social media and prattle on about 1 call when she actually went onto win the match, no wonder she's never done anything in the game if she's wasting pointless negative energy doing this sort or nonsense.
Former world #23, multiple titlist and GS QFist in singles, GS winner in doubles. I seriously doubt salty scrub Swan will ever get anywhere close to any of these feats in her career.
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It’s not necessary to do this especially after you won the match, but maybe Zhang is the type of person who values the integrity that much and treats it with lots of thought and respect. And probably that sour handshake from Swan drove her even madder. Dead at her not just calling out Swan on social media but tagging her right at the beginning of the post. And that “girl” part

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The people that say it's unnecessary after she won would be the first to call her a sore loser if she would have done this after a loss.
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Former world #23, multiple titlist and GS QFist in singles, GS winner in doubles. I seriously doubt salty scrub Swan will ever get anywhere close to any of these feats in her career.

So I was right, she's done nothing in the game this is one of the weakest defences I've ever heard.

1 Quarter final in a slam from 27 attempts and 17 Round 1 exits.
Highest Rank 23 is not exactly boasting territory.
Nobody gives a monkeys about doubles tennis unless your a hardcore with too much time on your hands.
She only won 2 tournaments on tour, 2 lowly internationals in China against mostly weak opposition.


Nothing against her but that's just a completely ordinary career, I don't think Swan is all that either and doesn't seem to have a mental edge about her to compete at the top level, but matching what Zheng has done is hardly a tall order.

Back to the original point, she needs to talk to people face to face if she has something to say, it's embarassing and classless to start bullying a 20 year old on twitter.

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So a ball that was at best more out than in but failed to excite the "chalk" so the linejudge called it out and the umpire had no reason to overrule. It should end there.

Not for Swan to concede a point she thought she had won fairly and certainly not for her opponent to ask her to and then whinge afterwards that she didn't.
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And Katie's shot went in did it not? So at most, the point would be replayed, not conceded.
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So I was right, she's done nothing in the game this is one of the weakest defences I've ever heard.

1 Quarter final in a slam from 27 attempts and 17 Round 1 exits.
Highest Rank 23 is not exactly boasting territory.
Nobody gives a monkeys about doubles tennis unless your a hardcore with too much time on your hands.
She only won 2 tournaments on tour, 2 lowly internationals in China against mostly weak opposition.


Nothing against her but that's just a completely ordinary career, I don't think Swan is all that either and doesn't seem to have a mental edge about her to compete at the top level, but matching what Zheng has done is hardly a tall order.

Back to the original point, she needs to talk to people face to face if she has something to say, it's embarassing and classless to start bullying a 20 year old on twitter.
So giving your standards at least 90% of the professionals, past or present, never did anything in the game. Do you even like tennis?

And back to the original point, Zhang asked her on court and Swan lied, so what bullying are you talking about?

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I googled and it seemed another passenger on the same airline claimed she was the one who threw a tantrum because she didn't get her way. This habit of shaming people online borders on bullying.
It is kind of bordering on bullying but it is also the same for Swan and other players who do things like that (if what Zhang is saying is true)

I think if Zhang approached it differently online without perhaps calling out someone specific, then it's not close to bullying. People should be able to express themselves online, especially in response to other people's behavior that can erode at values in matches.

Also, people who talk about these things or make cartoons about these kinds of events also add fuel to the fire (not that I mind, just saying...)

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So giving your standards at least 90% of the professionals, past or present, never did anything in the game. Do you even like tennis?

And back to the original point, Zhang asked her on court and Swan lied, so what bullying are you talking about?

That's absolutely correct, she's had a completely bog standard career, dressing up her career using doubles is embarassing and 1 QF and 17 Round 1 exists in slams from 27 attempts is terrible. Like I said before I have nothing against her or her level of player but she is just another run-of-the-mill wta player who will be forgotten quickly when she retires. She has done nothing in the game bar win a couple of low level tournies in over a decade on tour, if that impresses you then you're easily pleased, what Osaka has done in her short career, now that is impressive.

And it doesn't matter if she chatted to Swan on court til the sky turned pitch black, drawing attention to her AGAIN online for basically lying and lacking professionalism is uncalled for, cheap and bullying. She should at least go and pick on someone much older and more experienced, not someone who suffers from confidence issues.
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That's absolutely correct, she's had a completely bog standard career, dressing up her career using doubles is embarassing and 1 QF and 17 Round 1 exists in slams from 27 attempts is terrible. Like I said before I have nothing against her or her level of player but she is just another run-of-the-mill wta player who will be forgotten quickly when she retires. She has done nothing in the game bar win a couple of low level tournies in over a decade on tour, if that impresses you then you're easily pleased, what Osaka has done in her short career, now that is impressive.

And it doesn't matter if she chatted to Swan on court til the sky turned pitch black, drawing attention to her AGAIN online for basically lying and lacking professionalism is uncalled for, cheap and bullying. She should at least go and pick on someone much older and more experienced, not someone who suffers from confidence issues.
But lying and lacking professionalism is uncalled for in first place, and certainly cheaper than stating clearly someone is cheating: maybe Zhang underestimated the impact of her tirade on social media, but nothing of the sorts would've happened if Swan behaved fairly in first place, and yet you say nothing about her cheap attitude and blame it all on Zhang "the bully" instead.

And hello, doubles IS part of tennis: nobody said it's nearly as important as singles, but still you can get into tennis HOF by playing doubles alone, and such snooty incompetent response says a lot about your attitude towards the sport you should be supposedly following. And again, I'm not saying Zhang is some kind of GOAT, but she certainly is a good player with a decent career: really no need to dismiss her like she spent her whole time in the 150-250 range playing ITFs just because you're salty.
Not to say that, given your high standards, you're weirdly invested in someone who likely will never achieve half of what Zhang did: are you that interested in such a mediocre player just because she's British like you? Or do you just have "too much time on your hands", since you should be supposedly following only the likes of Osaka and Serena?

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