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Could have been worse, I guess.

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Hasn't Heather Watson had enough opportunities? Swiatek is the only one of that lot I can accept if we must have them given she has worked her way near the top 50 since the cut off. Don't mind a couple of wc's being held back for players in that sort of category.
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Lisicki really? I wish Wimbledon would stop rewarding has beens like her and Baghdatis. It's fine if they are showing some form or a promise of a return but Lisicki is really just done! She's played a full schedule and can't get herself a top 200 ranking she's won ONE match in 2019! At least the British scrubs have beaten other scrubs. She's lost to Shinikova, Raina, Galfi and Wallace, it's just a mockery.

EDIT: It's also her 8th WC of the year. Like why is she so popular? Are people really buying tickets to see someone who never even cracked the top 10!

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Hasn't Heather Watson had enough opportunities? Swiatek is the only one of that lot I can accept if we must have them given she has worked her way near the top 50 since the cut off. Don't mind a couple of wc's being held back for players in that sort of category.
Heather would have / will get in on ranking anyway as there are no real other WC alternatives to push her out.
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Hasn't Heather Watson had enough opportunities? Swiatek is the only one of that lot I can accept if we must have them given she has worked her way near the top 50 since the cut off. Don't mind a couple of wc's being held back for players in that sort of category.
Oh please, did you see the list of scrubs that got WCs for RG? Wimbledon usually at least applies a cutoff, and why shouldn't it reward Watson, Swan and Dart, all of whom are capable of winning a match here against the right opponent.
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what have any of the Brits done to deserve a wildcard ? they waste these wildcards on absolute no hopers every single year, as do so many tournies. But Slams is more of a issue because the rewards are so much greater in terms of prizes/points.

Watson is just a journeywoman player these days, if your highest career rank is 37 at the age of 27, you shouldn't be parachuted into such a big competition given you're not the future, stand little hope of making round 3 let alone winning and done nothing in your career to demonstrate why you should be there, apart from being British. You should have to earn your place but of course the LTA needs British players to progress somehow to make them look good. Winning a junior event here 12 months ago shouldn't give license to promote Swiatek into Wimbledon either.

Lisicki would have been more worthy of a main draw wildcard than any on the list, former top 12 player and Wimbledon finalist.

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Could have been worse, I guess.
What do you mean? There's literally only going to end up being 2 MDWCs for the home nation. If you are looking at it from a neutral perspective then it realistically couldn't have gone better from that POV. Imagine any other slam giving 2 MDWCs out and 6 next in.

What were you expecting to make it 'better'?
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Hasn't Heather Watson had enough opportunities? Swiatek is the only one of that lot I can accept if we must have them given she has worked her way near the top 50 since the cut off. Don't mind a couple of wc's being held back for players in that sort of category.
This is only her 4th WC (and it isn't really a wildcard as she would be a DA if they didn't have any wildcards) plus two of them came when she was teenager 2010 and 2011. Her only other one was in 2017 when she reached 3rd round beating Sevastova, having suffered with mono through most of 2016 hence ranking slide.
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what have any of the Brits done to deserve a wildcard ? they waste these wildcards on absolute no hopers every single year, as do so many tournies. But Slams is more of a issue because the rewards are so much greater in terms of prizes/points.

Watson is just a journeywoman player these days, if your highest career rank is 37 at the age of 27, you shouldn't be parachuted into such a big competition given you're not the future, stand little hope of making round 3 let alone winning and done nothing in your career to demonstrate why you should be there, apart from being British. You should have to earn your place but of course the LTA needs British players to progress somehow to make them look good. Winning a junior event here 12 months ago shouldn't give license to promote Swiatek into Wimbledon either.

Lisicki would have been more worthy of a main draw wildcard than any on the list, former top 12 player and Wimbledon finalist.

We need to end this freebie culture anyway.
WHAT!?! You're deluded. She's won one match all year against Ellen Perez. How is that more deserving than Harriet Dart who qualified for AO or Katie Swan who just beat a top 100 player. Swiatek is firmly in top 100 at aged 18! Plus her and Watson are literally the next two in anyway. So even if you abandoned freebie culture they would still be in main draw!

How is one good run at Wimbledon 6 years ago worth a lifetime of wildcards?

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Lisicki really? I wish Wimbledon would stop rewarding has beens like her and Baghdatis. It's fine if they are showing some form or a promise of a return but Lisicki is really just done! She's played a full schedule and can't get herself a top 200 ranking she's won ONE match in 2019! At least the British scrubs have beaten other scrubs. She's lost to Shinikova, Raina, Galfi and Wallace, it's just a mockery.

EDIT: It's also her 8th WC of the year. Like why is she so popular? Are people really buying tickets to see someone who never even cracked the top 10!

Pls don't come at me Lisicki fans.
Joeh - quite funny that post - made me laugh especially the bit about the British scrubs beating other scrubs. I agree with your comments though. I know Lisicki reached the final - which is more than our scrubs have done - but that must be at least six years or more ago and at least it is only a qwc but even so. Easy Solution - in an ideal world - scrap mdwc's at GS events unless it is really justified such as in Swiatek's case. Unfortunately, it won't happen though.
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Joeh - quite funny that post - made me laugh especially the bit about the British scrubs beating other scrubs. I agree with your comments though. I know Lisicki reached the final - which is more than our scrubs have done - but that must be at least six years or more ago and at least it is only a qwc but even so. Easy Solution - in an ideal world - scrap mdwc's at GS events unless it is really justified such as in Swiatek's case. Unfortunately, it won't happen though.
I know you are very vocal about wildcards, but this really couldn't have gone much better from your perspective - you often say why should people jump the queue over those who have worked hard etc. well Watson is literally that person being 3 out, so if you scrap wildcards for slams, she gets in by ranking - you can have no complaints with that.

It looks like the final 'WCs', if Ilkley is won by Linette, Rybarikova or Jorovic, will be:
Jorovic (next in), Kumkhum (next in), Watson (next in), Swiatek (next in) Jakupovic (next in), Zhu (next in), Dart (MDWC), Swan (MDWC)

or if Ilkley is won by someone else other than those 3:
Jorovic (next in), Kumkhum (next in), Watson (next in), Swiatek (next in) Jakupovic (next in), Ilkley winner (MDWC), Dart (MDWC), Swan (MDWC)

That realistically can't be too bad for someone predominantly so against wildcards.
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This is only her 4th WC (and it isn't really a wildcard as she would be a DA if they didn't have any wildcards) plus two of them came when she was teenager 2010 and 2011. Her only other one was in 2017 when she reached 3rd round beating Sevastova, having suffered with mono through most of 2016 hence ranking slide.
Right - are you referring to cut off six weeks ago re Watson? I counted six (inc this one) since 2010 or is there something I've missed?
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I think these seem very fair.
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Oh please, did you see the list of scrubs that got WCs for RG? Wimbledon usually at least applies a cutoff, and why shouldn't it reward Watson, Swan and Dart, all of whom are capable of winning a match here against the right opponent.
So what if Watson, Swan and Dart are capable of winning a match against the right opponent - that could apply to lots of players who will have to hack it through qualifying if you are looking at it from a neutral perspective. And yes I did see the list of scrubs that got wc's for RG but even with the applied cut off Wimbledon has had one of the worst records for home players going out in the first round that have been awarded wild cards in recent years.
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