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Old May 25th, 2019, 01:26 PM
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so this was a bit unfortunate...

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It's a joke. But also it's a joke rule. 50% of a lot of money is still a lot of money so no surprise players will sink to lows like this one.


Just pay the directly in MD players some kind of rent that is comparable to 1st round money at Slams and then abolish the 1st round money except for qualifiers.

I guess i don't understand the current rule then, because i thought that as long as Boulter was ELIGIBLE to play MD, that she could pull out citing her injury, and she didn't actually have to appear in the draw to get half the 1R money... Steffi Voegele got ripped off, no question, as did the girl who missed out on playing qualifying.
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I guess i don't understand the current rule then, because i thought that as long as Boulter was ELIGIBLE to play MD, that she could pull out citing her injury, and she didn't actually have to appear in the draw to get half the 1R money... Steffi Voegele got ripped off, no question.
The rule is they have to withdraw on-site, which will mean after the draws have been made and the qualifying has started. No money for earlier withdrawal - Sharapova can afford it, Boulter evidently can't.
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Re: Katie Boulter makes hasty French Open getaway after picking up controversial pay

Sharapova can not only afford it, she can understand that the bad publicity from mangling it like this would cost her more than an early withdrawal.
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Re: Katie Boulter makes hasty French Open getaway after picking up controversial pay

More self-righteous holier-than-thou desperate drama seeking tabloid sensationalist garbage which is all too typical of the British media.

Yawn.

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Re: Katie Boulter makes hasty French Open getaway after picking up controversial pay

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I guess i don't understand the current rule then, because i thought that as long as Boulter was ELIGIBLE to play MD, that she could pull out citing her injury, and she didn't actually have to appear in the draw to get half the 1R money... Steffi Voegele got ripped off, no question, as did the girl who missed out on playing qualifying.
You do not have to be on the draw, you have to withdraw after Wednesday 12 pm


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A player who withdraws from the Main Draw singles competition prior to
his/her first match shall receive 50% of the first round prize money if the
following conditions are met:
i. The withdrawal must occur after 12 noon, on Wednesday before
the start of the Main Draw;
ii. The player must be on-site at the time of the withdrawal and
must be declared unfit to play by the Tournament Doctor;
iii. Each player is limited to two (2) Grand Slam Tournaments in a
calendar year where he/she may receive prize money for the onsite withdrawal
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Re: Katie Boulter makes hasty French Open getaway after picking up controversial pay

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2019_F...en#Prize_money

Look at that prize money:

2 x 2,300,000 Euro winners cheques
2 x 1,180,000 runners up
4 x 590,000 semi finals
etc. etc. etc.

42,661,000 Euro total prize money

Obscene prize funds and I think the FO is actually less than Wimbledon and certainly the US Open, so it'll be even more at those 2. I'm repeating myself, but they could easily set up an injury pot out of that to pay, in this case, Sharapova, Makarova, Boulter and Giorgi (and any equivalent male players) half of the money to avoid all of this. Voegele would have got in the draw, Bondar would have got into qualifying.

The slams are by far the most prestigious events so you're going to do everything in your power to play, but if you can't then you are encouraged (and benefited) to pull out as soon as you know to give others a chance (as RookiePundit said) and if there were any late genuine withdrawals, then LL spots could open up and it would be less of a farce.

If you've made the cut 5 weeks out, then you're guaranteed to be paid as a reward for getting your ranking that high so close to the draw. Seriously, what's stopping them doing that, surely that makes most sense?
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Re: Katie Boulter makes hasty French Open getaway after picking up controversial pay

What happened to Giorgi? She withdrew from the April 22 Istanbul.

The WTA Singles Draw PDF told "C. Giorgi (Injury TBC)" firstly.

The PDF was updated every day until the tournament finished but still did not tell what the injury was.



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Re: Katie Boulter makes hasty French Open getaway after picking up controversial pay

People tends to forget the rationale of the rule.

Before this new rule, players clearly unfit to play were entering the slam, playing a few games of the first round and then retire, thus generating three effects:

- collecting the full 1R prize money
- depriving any other player from entering
- giving to the spectators, on site and on TV, a bad show

With the new rule the first effect is cut in half, the other two are totally avoided, since the player is anyway replaced by the next alternate or a LL.

Boulter and Berdich (if it will be the case even Giorgi, Raonic and Kyrgios) are not only using the rule, but they are using it in the only possible way.

It is not like the MTO, that can be used properly or even in an unfair way, this rule can be used ONLY in this way.

What we can perhaps blame to Boulter is to have given too much publicity to the fact, while for example Berdych has been much more discrete:


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So this was a bit unfortunate...

Well she just sent this latest WTA promotional campaign into the Big Fail bin, didn't she!

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The idea that she is taking money away from somebody outside the Q cutoff is ludicrous. They have 52 weeks a year to get inside the top 195 (or whatever the exact number is) which means guaranteed entry into the qualifying draw. Anything lower than that, they’re depending on withdrawals and should be thankful if somebody does withdraw but that’s it.

I can’t believe we are still having this discussion after the rule change. Martic, Hercog and others showing up injured and retiring after 1 game were breaking the rules as every player is supposed to give their best effort, but it was still understandable considering the size of the paycheck. Boulter earned her spot and is not breaking a single rule and it’s not like she’s an established top 20 player with thousands in a savings account. She barely started breaking even last year and nobody can tell if she’ll fall back down or become a top 100 regular.

All of this is assuming that she had no chance of playing in the first place. Health is a spectrum and she should not have to withdraw 8 days before her potential match just so Barbara Haas can get into the Q draw.
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Katie ‘Bolter’

I’m surprised none of the trash papers have picked up the story, just to make use of her surname.
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Katie ‘Bolter’
Yeah she bolted her nugget. I don't have enough brain space to read all this but I don't think I can blame anyone as it's the actual salary for months.
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Re: Katie Boulter makes hasty French Open getaway after picking up controversial pay

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I guess i don't understand the current rule then, because i thought that as long as Boulter was ELIGIBLE to play MD, that she could pull out citing her injury, and she didn't actually have to appear in the draw to get half the 1R money... Steffi Voegele got ripped off, no question, as did the girl who missed out on playing qualifying.
The withdrawal must occur after 12 noon, on Wednesday before the start of the Main Draw (by the time qualifying is well underway) or player does not get paid anything.
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Sharapova can not only afford it, she can understand that the bad publicity from mangling it like this would cost her more than an early withdrawal.
That’s the UK press for you, pick up on this and kick one of our own when there’s plenty of other positive things in tennis they could be reporting on, our female No.2 no less (let’s be honest, most people here would take a flight to Paris to earn 20K? I certainly would!). They’d be crawling all over her again in a totally different way at the time Wimbledon rolls round if she were to play.

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