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More to come! 18 tournaments, 18 different winners

For the first time in WTA history, the first 18 titles of the year have had a different champion. “It’s by far the most wide-Open field as far as I can remember” said Chris Evert.

The upcoming clay and grass seasons do not seem to provide a clear answer either of who is yet to dominate the women’s tour.

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Re: The state of the WTA: 14 tournaments, 14 different winners

Same in ATP until last week when Federer won Miami.

Only Bertens, Bencic and Sabalenka have chances this week to repeat title. 3 from 28 players alive as today so good chances to keep extending it for one week more.

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It's more about inconsistency of top players . That's my personal point of view. Yes women field might be overall better but top player loses matches they shouldn't. There is no consistency and they try to hide behind deep field excuse all the time.
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It's more about inconsistency of top players . That's my personal point of view. Yes women field might be overall better but top player loses matches they shouldn't. There is no consistency and they try to hide behind deep field excuse all the time.
Exactly! The so-called top players are horrible, they have been for the past few years. The lack of talent at the top is causing this inconsistency, not the deep field.
I thought that Osaka could change this embarrassing situation and bring more consistency to the top of the game, instead she's proving to be another hot mess.
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I dont understand why this is a surprise. Serena and Sharapova were just two of the players who won more than two titles a season regularly. Without them, it skews the data.
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It is hard to explain indeed. Today’s top players have access to better conditioning programs, physios and information about nutrition. Point construction strategies and opponent weaknesses can easily be studied by simply logging into YouTube.

Are they just less motivated or simply distracted by social media and the whole marketing spiel that prevails today?
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It is hard to explain indeed. Today’s top players have access to better conditioning programs, physios and information about nutrition. Point construction strategies and opponent weaknesses can easily be studied by simply logging into YouTube.
I think this is the issue.... but the exact opposite of what you're thinking. ALL the girls have this data, and if solidly in the Top 100, probably have enough money to have access to the programs, nutrition, etc... Some might think its just the top girls being lazy or not that good, but I think down the board, there are a lot of good players, and they are finding ways to beat the top ones when they have the chance.
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what's the problem. it's great not knowing who will win from week to week.

people on here complain about the standard, depth or whatever, the a.t.p. was the same except for federer's win last week. BUT OF COURSE WITH THE A.T.P. IT'S FANTASTIC NEXT GEN, OR WHATEVER.

people on this forum and the media always want to bag the w.t.a. or woman's tennis in general, but if it's on the mens side it's fantastic.

the major problem is that most female tennis players can't close out matches, i.e mental midgets.( a major reason why you must stay tuned in until the final point.) (this wasn't a criticism, just fact.)

the a.t.p. will soon be the same way once the big 3 retire.
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It is hard to explain indeed. Today’s top players have access to better conditioning programs, physios and information about nutrition. Point construction strategies and opponent weaknesses can easily be studied by simply logging into YouTube.

Are they just less motivated or simply distracted by social media and the whole marketing spiel that prevails today?
No, it's not that hard to explain. These Women just get too much money for literally doing NOTHING. This equal pay crap that particularly Andy & his mother Judy Murray advocated the most DOOMED the WTA. Prize Money going through the roof. They win a couple of big Tournaments, get a huge paycheck and then they're satisfied with it.
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I think this is great as more players get to shine on big stage. The top players, though not winning all the titles, usually ran deep in each draw. It's not like every QF of every premier event has all random players in the draw. In the long run, this is healthy. Let's not forget that Angie Kerber was in her first PM final in IW. Plishkova and Barty are both consistent top players on tour for the Miami final. Kvitova and Osaka were in the AO final fighting for the No.1 ranking.
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- Roadmap is a key factor. Before Roadmap players had more choice and flexibility of their schedule, pretty much choosing where they WANTED to play, when they wanted. Now they are FORCED to play in tournaments, some of which they are not really inspired to compete in, or are not rested enough to compete. Hence all the ‘tanks’ and many uninspiring performances we have seen in recent years

- Slowing down of grass / hard courts & overall increase of hardcourts have led to a more physical style of play, where players have to ‘grind’ out matches a lot more, it’s harder to hit winners. It must be more difficult for top players to maintain consistency week by week due to the exhausting surfaces they are required to play & modern game styles

- Increase in draws / less rest time. Draws are generally much bigger now and players are having to play extra matches with little time to recover in between matches & tournaments. Plus some parts of the year are a geographical mess (post USO) - consequent results in more erratic performances due to jet lag / less time to adapt

The WTA have based all their strategies on the business / income, that is more important to them than players health or fan experience
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It is hard to explain indeed. Today’s top players have access to better conditioning programs, physios and information about nutrition. Point construction strategies and opponent weaknesses can easily be studied by simply logging into YouTube.
Perhaps because today everyone has access to all that, as opposed to the past when that knowledge was harder to come by and richer top players were privileged, thus had an easier time staying on top of the competition.

Tennis is a marginal sport and a lot of matches end up depending on just 1-2 points, so perhaps it's the situation in the past that was quite abnormal (having a dominant Top 10). Whichever way you look at it, the player's success or lack of depends in the end on their physical and mental preparedeness, which we can all agree has changed a lot this decade.
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I may have to update this thread by the end of 2019.

Who cares of hypertrophic weapons when the player on the court moves like music?
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