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Women version of the Laver Cup

Whether it is a pipe dream or something practical:

1. What do you think of the Laver Cup? Is is real competition or just an exhibition?
2. Following the large crowds in attendance, and the media attention it has received at this 2nd edition and the 1st, shouldn't the WTA also cash in and popularise women tennis?
3. Which living legend will it be named after? Court? Williams? Graf? BJK already has her WTT
4. Who will be the captains of team Europe and Team World?
5. Which players are the best picks for team Europe and Team World?
6. Which is the best venue for the inaugural edition? A German, English, American or Chinese city with a good indoor HC facilities and tennis loving citizens?

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Women version of the Laver Cup

No one would come to a WTA version of the Laver Cup. Certainly not in the US. Most people only know the names of a few WTA players. Not enough star power to support it.

Laver Cup was Federer’s idea. No WTA player would lead something like that. These girls aren’t interested in being leaders.


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Re: Women version of the Laver Cup

1. I'm still making my mind about it. And I find it a nice hybrid between competition and exhibition.
2. Challenging to accomplish the same with women. You need star power and self-promotion to some extent, plus good team spirit. Rumors are girls don't all get along so well with each other (though some do).
3. Court is too controversial. Graf Cup sounds kinda funny (Steffi Cup would sound better, but it's not gonna be that ). Williams is too soon. But it might be too soon for such even for women anyway, so we'll see.
4. Graf and Navratilova? Kim and Devenport? I'm sure they'll figure it out if it comes to it.
5. For Europe there are plenty of choices, but besides the obvious top girls, I would also consider Siniaková to have a good doubles player as well and/or someone like Bertens or Mertens. For World is more tricky. Naomi yes, then Rena, Sloane or Maddie... though they're all a gamble, maybe even Coco is a safer bet then some of them in such even (plus she's decent in doubles), then Barty more international representation (and doubles again). And if they still needs somebody, Hsieh or Want perhaps.
6. Maybe they go back to Singapore if Shenzhen takes over YEC? But one thing I suggest is to be in the other region than Lever Cup, i.e.: as Lever will be in Europe next year, the "Steffi Cup" should be in Asia or US. Or the other way around in 2020 (the earliest such thing might happen)... and if we do get a "Steffi Cup" (but we won't) they can as well start in Germany.
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Re: Women version of the Laver Cup

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No one would come to a WTA version of the Laver Cup. Certainly not in the US. Most people only know the names of a few WTA players. Not enough star power to support it.
They might if it's in Miami and the girls promise to wear breezy attire.

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Re: Women version of the Laver Cup

You are new here, but this was quite discussed already last year

https://www.tennisforum.com/12-gener...eam-teams.html

there were some really great suggestions actually (and a bunch of bullshit regarding if Russia is Europe or Asia).

My suggestion was

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This will sound completely arbitrary and maybe too much of a stretch but I would love to see a cup between Eastern Europe X Latin Europe

The teams would be

Eastern Europe:
Captain:
Navratilova
Players:
Ostapenko
Wozniacki
Sharapova
Azarenka
Kvitova
Hingisova (as doubles specialist)

Latin Europe
Captain:
Conchita Martinez
Players:
Muguruza
Caroline Garcia
Halep
CSN
Alize Cornet
Niculescu (As doubles specialist)

Just imagine the drama of seeing Azarenka, Sharapova, Ostapenko and Wozniacki on the same team. Ostapenko playing doubles with Hingisova, 2 completely opposite ideas about even what is tennis.

Yeah, no chance to happen at all, but would be really nice.
Some other great ideas

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Team European Harmony
Jankovic (captain)
Ostapenko
Cornet
Putintseva
Rodionova
Mladenovic and Garcia (doubles, naturally)
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Here's my proposal:

Team Serveless Wonders:

Captain: Elena Dementieva

Simona Halep
Jelena Ostapenko
Caro Wozniaki
Aga Radwanska
Angie Kerber
Cici Bellis
Elina Svitolina
Dominka Cibulkova

Servbots:

Captain: Brenda Schultz-McCarthy

Karolina Pliskobot
Krystina Pliskobot
Sabine Liskibot
Serena Willibot
Coco Vandewebot
Johanna Konbot
Madison Keybot
Timea Babosbot



I think this is most representative of the state of today's WTA.
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Team Midgets (Austin)
Cibulkova
Halep
Putintseva
Gavrilova
Strycova
Davis

Team Amazonians (Shriver)
Muguruza
Pliskova
Keys
Kvitova
Venus
Sharapova

Team Plump (Conchita)
Pavlyuchenkova
Brengle
Townsend
Y Duan
Kanepi
Jabeur

Team Pushers (Hingis)
Radwanska
Wozniacki
Kasatkina
Cornet
T Maria
Siegemund
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Re: Women version of the Laver Cup

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No one would come to a WTA version of the Laver Cup. Certainly not in the US. Most people only know the names of a few WTA players. Not enough star power to support it.

Laver Cup was Federer’s idea. No WTA player would lead something like that.
Yup.

WTA players will as usual do nothing and let BJK or other retired aunties (who are now paid corporate mouthpieces and no longer players) come out of the woodwork and speak on behalf of active pros. Sorta like a manager pretending to speak on behalf of unions. That's how WTA rolls.
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Re: Women version of the Laver Cup

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You are new here, but this was quite discussed already last year

https://www.tennisforum.com/12-gener...eam-teams.html
Cool, thanks for this.
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Re: Women version of the Laver Cup

No thanks.

Laver Cup is carried by Federer. And there are no real stakes.

Watching Novak try to give a crap was quite funny though.
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No thanks.

Laver Cup is carried by Federer. And there are no real stakes.

Watching Novak try to give a crap was quite funny though.
Yeah it is indisputable that the Laver Cup is totally dependent on Roger's star power. It's really all just a marketing vehicle. I suspect it's the type of thing Roger will keep playing once he's retired so it will probably have some longevity.

A WTA version would be a disaster on so many levels. Lack of engaging personalities and most of them would struggle to do the buddy buddy routine.
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Re: Women version of the Laver Cup

I would like to see female players in the current Laver Cup. Each team could have 3 male players and 3 female players (highest ranked player plus two WC). The schedule could be something like this:

Day1: women single, men singles, women doubles.
Day2: women single, men singles, men doubles.
Day3: women single, men singles, mixed doubles.

This years team could have been:
Europe: Halep, Kerber, Kvitova, Federer, Djokovic and Zverev.
World: Osaka, Stephens, Keys, Anderson, Isner and Kyrgios.

I would love to watch a tournament like this!
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Laver Cup is awful. It killed Davis Cup. Just for money.

Seeing both tours disappear for glorified exhos is terrible. Business and money are killing small tournaments with actual people driven mostly by the passion for the sport, not for money. Nothing good can come from such things. The price of the tickets prevents actual tennis fans to go.

We'll end up with loaded boring crowds that know little to tennis except cheering for the only few names they know. This will kill the base of the sport (small tournaments, volunteers, local fans) and therefore will result in a drop of quality players. It's the depth we finally have that will suffer.

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I would like to see female players in the current Laver Cup. Each team could have 3 male players and 3 female players (highest ranked player plus two WC). The schedule could be something like this:

Day1: women single, men singles, women doubles.
Day2: women single, men singles, men doubles.
Day3: women single, men singles, mixed doubles.

This years team could have been:
Europe: Halep, Kerber, Kvitova, Federer, Djokovic and Zverev.
World: Osaka, Stephens, Keys, Anderson, Isner and Kyrgios.

I would love to watch a tournament like this!
So basically a mix of Laver and Hopman Cup....?

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Re: Women version of the Laver Cup

No thanks! Laver cup is as well. After complaining about long seasons and withdrawing from tournaments right and left, players are more than happy to pay for $$$$. (Federer ) It's quite disrespectful to the tournaments who are supporting not just top players but the whole tour. All the mega exhibitions should be scheduled in off season anyways.

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Re: Women version of the Laver Cup

The Laver Cup just has so much posing going on. I can't really decide whether I'm a fan or not - while it contains a lot of good tennis, it's just a little bit too glossy and dressed up for my taste. Faithfully modelled after Federer, in other words.
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Laver Cup is awful. It killed Davis Cup. Just for money.

Seeing both tours disappear for glorified exhos is terrible. Business and money are killing small tournaments with actual people driven mostly by the passion for the sport, not for money. Nothing good can come from such things. The price of the tickets prevents actual tennis fans to go.

We'll end up with loaded boring crowds that know little to tennis except cheering for the only few names they know. This will kill the base of the sport (small tournaments, volunteers, local fans) and therefore will result in a drop of quality players. It's the depth we finally have that will suffer.
A very thoughtful post.
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