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Question Martina Hingis: Had the 2007 Ban not happened... What would her singles resume be?

Due to her extremely successful doubles comeback, I think this begs the fair question.

I presume this question is geared toward some of the older posters who got to see her play or understand her game.

In short, I think she would have fared well. Her early stokes, good pop on the ball because of that, court sense and craft. I think it would have fare her well to the very one dimensional period we seemed to have from 2008-2016.

She was no pusher, and no fear of power, handled power quite nicely actually. I think she also could have enhanced her singles resume much like Venus has despite age.

Venus arguably reinstates this claim due to success despite an auto-immune disease and "shadow of her former self" movement.

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Re: Martina Hingis: Had the 2007 Ban not happened... What would her singles resume be

Not much different than what she accomplished before getting banned. A few tournament wins here and there with some slam QFs.

I love Hingis, but she just wasn't athletic or strong enough to deal with the power hitters consistently. The only top player she scored a win against was Sharapova. She just couldn't get past Henin, Mauresmo, and Clijsters. I don't see much changing in 2008 with Venus and Serena in better form than 2007, and Jankovic playing her best tennis.





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Not much different than what she accomplished before getting banned. A few tournament wins here and there with some slam QFs.

I love Hingis, but she just wasn't athletic or strong enough to deal with the power hitters consistently. The only top player she scored a win against was Sharapova. She just couldn't get past Henin, Mauresmo, and Clijsters. I don't see much changing in 2008 with Venus and Serena in better form than 2007, and Jankovic playing her best tennis.
What about the preceding years? 2010-2015? I think the opportunity was there for better results.
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Re: Martina Hingis: Had the 2007 Ban not happened... What would her singles resume be

She was already fading fast in 2nd half of 2007, so it's very unlikely she would've had better results than 2006 - a solid top-10 but hardly a factor in Slams - when aged 30+. A few more titles yes, another singles GS totally out of the question.
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Re: Martina Hingis: Had the 2007 Ban not happened... What would her singles resume be

Martina's lack of power permanently removed her aura of invincibility. She might have won a couple of smaller tournaments, but I doubt that she would be any sort of a grand slam singles threat.
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Re: Martina Hingis: Had the 2007 Ban not happened... What would her singles resume be

Basically the same. She wasn't winning majors in her 06-'07 comeback before the suspension.
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Re: Martina Hingis: Had the 2007 Ban not happened... What would her singles resume be

The parallelisms between her 2002 retirement and her 2007 retirement are funny. Both years it was in Miami when it became clear something was very wrong with her body, being bageled by Serena in 2002 (whom she had a 6-6 h2h against and had only been routined by her like once, 6-3 6-2 by peak Serena at the USO the previous year) and losing to Radwanska in 2007. By late 2002 and 2007 she was plagued by injuries and losing to scrubs left and right. I think she would've probably retired, anyway; drug ban or not. Had she not gotten injuried again in 2007, would she have won another Grand Slam? Unlikely, but not impossible, her performances in Australia had been pretty good in both 2006 and 2007, she would've had a chance there.

I'm just sad I don't live in the parallel universe where didn't choke away the '99 FO and the '02 AO
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Re: Martina Hingis: Had the 2007 Ban not happened... What would her singles resume be

There has never been a player who stepped up in the perfect era and hoovered slams like Hingis. Watching her game and where the game is today she would really struggle today.
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Re: Martina Hingis: Had the 2007 Ban not happened... What would her singles resume be

She was not a factor. "Legend" my ass.
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Re: Martina Hingis: Had the 2007 Ban not happened... What would her singles resume be

2007 after Miami she became a non factor
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Re: Martina Hingis: Had the 2007 Ban not happened... What would her singles resume be

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There has never been a player who stepped up in the perfect era and hoovered slams like Hingis. Watching her game and where the game is today she would really struggle today.
I agree with you, I don't think Hingis particularly liked the way tennis had changed. All her hardwork since a junior was wasted on a few players being taught that being different is key and see where that got them, all these Grand Slam winners are more physical and athletic than she ever was and play with allot more topspin and power.

But who knows? Hingis was as a Hingis would ever be, she won matches with ease when she felt she had control of the emotions of the match.
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Re: Martina Hingis: Had the 2007 Ban not happened... What would her singles resume be

She would have won maybe 3-5 tournaments more but likely not any Grand Slam.
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I actually wish that she hung around (ofcourse lol I am a major fan) but had more of a doubles focus back then.

Imagine the type of stats she'd have now if she was full time doubles specialist from 2008 is rather than 2014????

Always thought she was a much more talented and instinctive doubles players - one of the very best ever - and if she had not been away from the game for so many years she'd be right up there with the top two or three all time for doubles titles and slams.
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Re: Martina Hingis: Had the 2007 Ban not happened... What would her singles resume be

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I actually wish that she hung around (ofcourse lol I am a major fan) but had more of a doubles focus back then.

Imagine the type of stats she'd have now if she was full time doubles specialist from 2008 is rather than 2014????

Always thought she was a much more talented and instinctive doubles players - one of the very best ever - and if she had not been away from the game for so many years she'd be right up there with the top two or three all time for doubles titles and slams.
but most good players dont care for doubles
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Re: Martina Hingis: Had the 2007 Ban not happened... What would her singles resume be

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but most good players dont care for doubles
And that's probably why most of them are terrible at the net these days basic players can go far in singles with only groundstrokes, but in doubles you have to have more variety.

Barty and Safarova are anomalies nowadays in that they are top doubles players and have the potential to be or were top singles players, but they're not helped by today's more taxing game and shorter season.
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