CCL's Astrology Corner - TennisForum.com
Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 19th, 2003, 05:36 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Ashie_87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,313
                     
Weird Article from LleytonLand.....

There was this article in a magazine...er...somewhere...dunno where and it had 4 people predicting Kim's future (Justine's too but this IS CCL...)

First prediction by a woman who calls herself "Madame Soleil", she takes a look into the future...
"Kim is having an emotionally hard time.The success came over her and she can't follow anymore. She's sensible and modest and doesn't feel like a superstar.I fear her father will sufficate her in the long run.He keeps on screening her from the dangerous world.But Kim has become a young woman and wants to stand on her own two feet.But it will never escalate between father and daughter, their mutual affection is too big for that.They're smart, good-hearted people and they'll compromize.Kim comes from a dream family and that's beautiful, but it makes you dependable: you're whole life you yearn for that same warm love.I don't think her relationship with her Australian boyfriend will last. She falls in love too easily, she's too obliging.They're both top-class athletes: they don't see each other much and then you might fall into the arms of someone else..."

Second prediction: Mrs Marthy Overbeeke is an astrologer.
" Kim is Gemini, ascendant Pisces and a Waterpiglet in Chinese horoscope. I see a certain nostalgia with Kim, possibly because she has to travel abroad so much. She may go and live with her boyfriend in Australia for a while, but she keeps coming back (to Belgium). She has bought a piece of land, not far from the place she grew up. But she doesn't only think about herself, she lets her family share in her wealth.Kim is very faithful and Lleyton is her big love.Kim enjoys family life and she will wnat to start a family of her own.I see more than one child for Kim. Within 5 years she'll certainly be a mum, possibly even earlier.After that she'll give tennis lessons.I advize her to pay extra attention to her shoulders neck and arms, these parts are now very sensitive to injuries."

Third prediction:Mrs Reine Denoël predicts the future by tarot.
"Aha!!Kims cards are very interesting. See this? Two men; yes, she'll have to make a choice. The other one is a sportsman too!And there'll be a baby, but that'll take a while.Now she's busy, our Kim.She'll make progress, but that's going to ask a lot of her. Life at the top is nerve-racking and Kim feels tired. She doesn't like it when other players are jealous of her.An injury, I see a small bandage around her ancle. A scratch, a fall, nothing serious.Kim is perfectly healthy, she'll reach a high age. And let me see, at an older age she'll move to the south. But not now, Kim won't emigrate to Australia. If she has a baby, she wants it to grow up here."

Last prediction:Mr André Stern "reads numbers"
"I see a semi-final for Kim at Wimbledon. The problem with Kim is that in an important match the pressure rises and then it gets hard for Kim.She'll feel better next year.I do see a light injury, but nothing serious.I don't give the relationship between Kim and Lleyton a good chance. Oh no, two captains on one ship, that doesn't work! They both have such strong chracters.Kim thinks the relation to people she loves is more important than her career. Kim is extrovert and can easily say "I love you".If her beloved asked her to stop playing tennis, she would do it."

riiiight....

anyone else thinking...wah????? these people obviously are NOT lleyki's...y dont they reckon it'll work? and does anyone else think it could just be a load of crap? about the injury?

[Mod message:
Besides LOL at the content Madame Soleil and all ...(btw thanks for the post ) I'd think we could expand this thread to all posts re astrology and related stuff. Could be great fun.
Therefore I adapted the thread title accordingly.

your mod]



The Posse:
Lucie Safarova, Ana Ivanovic, Jelena Jankovic, Casey Dellacqua, Sabine Lisicki
Tomas Berdych, Marcos Baghdatis, Novak Djokovic, Bernard Tomic, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, Tommy Haas, Jurgen Melzer

"Legend....wait for it.....ary"

Last edited by KaseyL; Jul 27th, 2003 at 02:53 PM.
Ashie_87 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 19th, 2003, 06:44 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: sydney :)
Posts: 879
                     
i think its just a load of bull in my opinion, like no one can say whats gona happen in the future, the future's the future and no one will know what happens UNTILL it happens!!! i've been thinking that Kimmie might have a slight little injury possibly, cause she's a had a good run this year (And the end of last year) and she's been playing so many tournaments, you know, you've got to wonder when the wheels are gona fall off, but hopefully they won't!! but yeah, i think kim should you know try not play so many matches.... cause you know you don't want a big fat ugly injury to stop her amazing run of tennis!!!

but getting back to the point, all that crap up there is just bull...in my opinion anyway!!!
spiritfullfrog is offline  
post #3 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 19th, 2003, 08:44 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Ashie_87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,313
                     
well said JJ!!! and also-
WHY the HELL was it all negative????



The Posse:
Lucie Safarova, Ana Ivanovic, Jelena Jankovic, Casey Dellacqua, Sabine Lisicki
Tomas Berdych, Marcos Baghdatis, Novak Djokovic, Bernard Tomic, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, Tommy Haas, Jurgen Melzer

"Legend....wait for it.....ary"

Last edited by lil_minx910; Jul 19th, 2003 at 10:34 AM.
Ashie_87 is offline  
 
post #4 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 22nd, 2003, 11:55 AM
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Posts: 1,957
                     
I think futertelling SUCKS!!! What do they know???
All I can say is: Kimmie prove that they are wrong!!!
kim&lleyton is offline  
post #5 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 22nd, 2003, 12:19 PM
Senior Member
 
Aussie_Kim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,857
                     
I don't believe in fortune telling or anything like that, mainly cos I'm a bit religious.
But I agree Ash & JJ theres nothing positive bout Kim's future so I really hope it doesn't come true. I really hope they don't break up cos it would be soo weird. They've been 2gether so long, it would be wrong them being apart.

We will miss you Kim!.


Best of Luck in 2007 to: Kim & Bryan, Lleyton, Alicia, Todd, Sam, Chris, Casey, Wayne, Kirsten & all the other Aussies & injured players.
Aussie_Kim is offline  
post #6 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 22nd, 2003, 01:27 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Belgium
Posts: 3,307
                     
Were they also that negative about Justine??

Come on Kim!!!!!!!!
.
.
.
Bigkimfan is offline  
post #7 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 22nd, 2003, 06:21 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Belgium
Posts: 3,307
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by lil_minx910
Two men; yes, she'll have to make a choice. The other one is a sportsman too!
Maybe it's Marc Herremans

Come on Kim!!!!!!!!
.
.
.
Bigkimfan is offline  
post #8 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 27th, 2003, 02:50 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,565
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Bigkimfan
Maybe it's Marc Herremans
LMAO
KaseyL is offline  
post #9 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 27th, 2003, 03:03 PM
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Posts: 4,565
                     
Mod message:

I'd figured that it would be fun/interesting that we would have a permanent astrology (and all related stuff) thread in here.

So please use this thread for all related posts, like Bella initially did with hers in here.

Anyhow, I think it might be interesting at least and food for good conversation. (this is a lounge after all! )

btw we actually have at least one or two CCL'rs who actually know their way around astrology.
Dagmar has done a great astrological report on Lleyton and has been so kind to make one for Kim too. She'll post it here one of these days.
Thanks in advance, Dagmar!
KaseyL is offline  
post #10 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 27th, 2003, 03:35 PM
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,259
                     
Thanks for the introduction, Ingrid...here it is. I've used a fourth century Latin text...Firmicius Maternus' Mathesis for the quotations. A big thanks to duck who helped me with sage counsel and analysis, and also to Ingrid for reading the preliminary version. If anyone's interested more details can be supplied. Hope you enjoy reading it, and--as with Lleyton's horoscope--I'll say that the ancient Romans watched feeding chickens to predict the future, so that should keep things in perspective.

I'm assuming that the psychic's statement that Kim's Ascendant is Pisces is true and, as I couldn't find the exact time of birth, I have calculated the angles and houses based on this assumption, so they are not as precise as they could be.

General Observation on Kim's Chart

Excluding the ascendant, Kim's chart is divided fairly equally between three elements: Air, Fire and Earth. This balance of elements means that Kim possesses vitality and will power, a sharp mind and, with two planets in Taurus, definitely a practical side. Because of the absence of planets in water signs, she may lack intuition.

With three planets in Mutable signs, 3 in Fixed and 1 in Cardinal, Kim has a good work ethic and staying power; she also adapts well to new situations and environments. She may, however, have trouble initiating acctions or discovering new ways of solving difficulties.

5 planets in Active signs and 2 in Passive makes Kim likely to act on/control her environment rather than to react/respond to it.

The chart is nocturnal and the Sun is near conjunction with the I.C. Only two planets were above the horizon at Kim's birth: Jupiter a little past the M.C. and Saturn above the Western Horizon. This means that much of Kim's personality is hidden from public view and confined to the public sphere. It also intensifies the power of the nocturnal planets: the Moon, Venus and Mars.

Planets in the Signs of the Zodiac and Planetary Aspects

There are only two notable planetary aspects in Kim's chart: the Sun in conjunction with Mars in the Sign of Gemini; Jupiter (in Sagittarius) in trine with Venus (in Leo). The first is considered malefic, the second beneficent.

The Sun/Mars conjunction, which she shares with Lleyton, makes Kim combative and hot-tempered. For ancient astrologers, this is an adverse aspect as Mars brings many conflicts to the Sun. Because Kim's conjunction is in Gemini, it may mean conflicts with siblings, and also the presence of verbal aggression and slander in Kim's life. As the aspect is nocturnal, these conflicts are considered "hidden" and confined to the private sphere.

Jupiter and Venus in trine, on the other hand, is completely positive, and gives Kim personal charm and good luck with friends and spouses. Firmicius suggests that Kim will benefit economically from the "protection of wives." Jupiter is exalted in Sagittarius, making Kim "generous, amiable, friends of many, known to all, worldly and respected." Venus in Leo highlights again the social nature of Kim's personality, suggesting that she loves to be the centre of attention.

The Moon in Taurus is favourably placed as this is the most emotionally stable position for the changeable moon. Mercury in Taurus is not as positive as the earth sign dulls the quicksilver energy of the planet. Kim will, however, have a good head for business and understand the value of objects.

For Saturn in Libra, Firmicius gives a very detailed description, which, unusual for the writer, pertains specifically to women. "Women will be intelligent, revered, of good counsel, prudent...They are quarrelsome, not easily deceived or cheated...quickly escape from damage. But they are worn out from nerves."

The Ascendant, Midheaven and the Planets in the Houses

The Ascendant in Pisces suggests that Kim is "intelligent, faithful and friendly" and that she may be "in charge of the affairs of others." Pisces is the most sympathetic of the signs and this is the immediate impression Kim gives, although the element of Water is represented nowhere else in her chart, so this appearance may be a little deceptive. The M.C.in Sagittarius brings vague warnings from Firmicius about mistakes, but again stresses the importance of friendship for Kim. It also means that she may be promiscuous.

Sun and Mars in conjunction in the place of Dea (third house), possibly in conjunction with the I.C.: Kim is "respectable" but "prone to illness." She is competitive and may have feelings of rivalry with others, desiring what they have. Firmicius gives a bizarre commentary on Mars in conjunction with the I.C., saying that Kim is likely to be a soldier, but one sent to desert places, who is likely to be the trainer and keeper of wild beasts. (Insert favourite Lleyton joke here! )

Venus in the house of Bona Fortuna makes Kim "honourable and benevolent" and likely to be "crowned with wreaths." The Moon in the second place also makes Kim "famous and involved in well-known activities." She is also "sensual and luxury-loving."

Jupiter and Saturn are in positive signs, but Jupiter is unhappy in a nocturnal chart and indicates that the Kim is superstitious and may become a habitual gambler.

I can provide more of my own commentary if you wish. The horoscope certainly highlights Kim's gift for friendship and social skills. She also seems a bit of a "material girl", who enjoys her comforts and luxuries. The warnings in this horoscope seem to mostly concern possible health problems, sibling rivalries and the possibilty of slander. The wreaths--given to victors in artistic and athletic contests--mentioned in the horoscope, of course, have already come true--hopefully, with many more to come.

Last edited by dagmar7; Jul 27th, 2003 at 07:29 PM.
dagmar7 is offline  
post #11 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 27th, 2003, 06:13 PM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: I'll ask.
Posts: 5,213
                     
Lynx is offline  
post #12 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 27th, 2003, 07:15 PM
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Posts: 1,259
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lynx
Anything that you would like clarified, Lynx? Or maybe I should just walk away quietly from the Lounge.

Edit: Is it because I spelled council instead of counsel? I'll go change it.

Last edited by dagmar7; Jul 27th, 2003 at 07:28 PM.
dagmar7 is offline  
post #13 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 27th, 2003, 07:31 PM
kit
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: Germany
Posts: 907
                     
Thank you Dagmar!

I'm very proud to be a LLEYKI!!!
Come on Lleyton and Kim !!!
"I believe Kim every day makes me be a better tennisplayer and human being.I can't really explain how she influences me,but I feel that she does."(Lleyton)

"I dream of a happy life with Lleyton,not of tennis or money!"(Kim)
kit is offline  
post #14 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 29th, 2003, 06:55 AM Thread Starter
Senior Member
 
Ashie_87's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Sydney, Australia
Posts: 1,313
                     
thanks Dagmar!! i know this is a stupid question-but what does promiscuous mean? yes i know im lazy but the dictionary is soooo far away....
my dad's nuts on this type of thing...he keeps trying to explain it but never as simply as you do!!!!



The Posse:
Lucie Safarova, Ana Ivanovic, Jelena Jankovic, Casey Dellacqua, Sabine Lisicki
Tomas Berdych, Marcos Baghdatis, Novak Djokovic, Bernard Tomic, Jo-Wilfried Tsonga, Tommy Haas, Jurgen Melzer

"Legend....wait for it.....ary"
Ashie_87 is offline  
post #15 of 30 (permalink) Old Jul 29th, 2003, 08:46 AM
Team WTAworld
Senior Member
 
Majo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Posts: 12,324
                     
Quote:
Originally Posted by lil_minx910
thanks Dagmar!! i know this is a stupid question-but what does promiscuous mean? yes i know im lazy but the dictionary is soooo far away....
my dad's nuts on this type of thing...he keeps trying to explain it but never as simply as you do!!!!
according to my dictionary it means "to have many relations"

"Ik weet dat wij ons erdoor slaan, dat we zij aan zij blijven staan
Tot alle stormen zijn verstomd en er een nieuwe lente komt
En alles weer begint van voor af aan..."

Nolle in causa est; non posse praetenditur.
~Seneca~
Majo is offline  
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the TennisForum.com forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address for yourself.

Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome