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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old Mar 22nd, 2004, 02:00 PM Thread Starter
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Kim's coach

As we've got no Kim matches to watch, I've been thinking about where Kim is at now compared to Justine's progress in the last 12 months and am beginning to wonder whether Kim is getting the best coaching? Kim is so "almost there" but still seems unable to make that final step to GS success. Does anyone think that changing her coach would enable her to make that step and, if so, which coach would you choose for her?

PS: I am not necessarily being critical of Marc Dehus or Kim here, I just wonder if people think it would make a difference if Kim had a different coach... Would be interesting to hear what you all think .....

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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old Mar 22nd, 2004, 04:30 PM
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I don't know... personnally I think that a coach have to be more than a coach, he has to be a friend as well! So I don't think it's easy to find someone you get along well with (because you have to live with him for a long period of time so...)

I think Marc taught Kim to be more patient when she is playing, to go for the winner later... it had a good effect (reducing the ue), but at the same time a less good one as she became tentative!

So it's a complex question I think

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Dunno!
Its an interesting question!
I think its important that they are good friends.
If Kim wasn't so injured she would be doing a bit better.

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No, I don't think Kim should change coaches. The only thing that's holding her back is herself.

Didn't she have some coaching drama in the past? I know she had a few switches during the 2002 season.
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Didn't she have some coaching drama in the past? I know she had a few switches during the 2002 season.
After RG in 2002 she split with Carl Maes who had coached her since way back at VTV, I don't know if the exact reasons for the split ever came out, Maes wanted to spend more time with his family though I think. She then had a temporary coach for Wimbledon Harry something and then travelled for the US hardcourt events with just her Dad, there is a photo around somewhere of him ballboying for her in Montreal that year and at the US Open she started with Marc and also Eveline her physio.

I agree with the sentiments above, a coach has to be a friend as well, a confidante, someone Kim could turn to, someone she trusts and have fun with, laugh with and even fight with but then within an hour be chatting again, she has to travel 11 months of the year with them so she has to be comfortable with whoever it is and Kim has known Marc since she was very young at the VTV I still love there first enounter how Kim was throwing her racket at VTV and he sent her from the practice and she wouldn't talk to him after that

Since Kim has started working with Marc, she has won 2 season enders, got to number 1 in both singles and doubles, won her first 2 tier 1 titles, made three grand slam finals, won WImbledon and French Open doubles, which are all things she hadn't acvhieved before, so together they have achieved a lot

I think Marc has tried to work on Kim's game, you can see this year (well at least in the matches I have seen, I haven't seen any since AO) she has tried to come to the net more and finish the points by capatalising on a great grounstroke rather than just start the rally from the base line again. I also think although she always had great courtcoverag, it has improved over the last few years and her slice is better she never used to be able to hit one, and her dropshots have improved - like the one she hit against Myskina in the TB at AO Myskina could only just get to it and Kim hit the winner past Myskina at the net. Her serve is something that is hard to work on cause of her shoulder problem but I think it has got more consistent, and more variety than before, but will always be a problem area. Her forehand is the area that needs work as it can break down under pressure, but they could be working on that we don't know

So yeah to sum up this very long post I think it wouldn't make a difference cause they could be the best coach in the world but unless Kim gets along with them and trusts them then they aren't going to make a good team and it won't benefit Kim's tennis. Look at Daniela and Harold Solomon they worked a month or so and are now split as Daniela said they just didn't click yet admitted he is a very good coach he had amazing plans in place for her like getting her biomechanically assessed and had determined specific weaknesses and technical problems he was going to work on, but Daniela is back working with Nigel Sears as she trusts him. Unless the player trusts the coach they aren't going to do what the coach says.
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Unless the player trusts the coach they aren't going to do what the coach says.
Well said.... ifs shes going to play well she needs ppl around her that she loves and trusts, including the coach. Why do u think her and lleyton try to be in the same area at the same time, she wants his support. And she also needs to get support from her coach, which she is obviously getting from Marc.
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post #7 of 20 (permalink) Old Mar 23rd, 2004, 11:55 AM
 
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Wow Naomi that's really good. Looks like you could write a long long essay about it

Totally agree with every single point you made
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Heehee thanks Keira


Unfortunately though I can't seem to write a long essay on Cognitive psychology at the moment and I have to
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Unfortunately though I can't seem to write a long essay on Cognitive psychology at the moment and I have to
Hey now, don't be dissing my subject If you need some help, cognitive is my 'area of expertise', as it were -- feel free to ask
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i believe Kim's coach knows what to teach or what it takes for Kim to be on top. i believe her coach knows what Kim needs to work on...

kim really has improved from last year... i think she's more aggressive now. and she rushes to the net more often... i think we hadn't seen all the improvements because of the unfortunate injuries she's had.

if not for her injuries this year... i don't see any reason why she shouldn't be lifting big titles...

i really hope she comes back stronger than ever!

we miss Kimmy... right guys!

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Heehee thanks Keira


Unfortunately though I can't seem to write a long essay on Cognitive psychology at the moment and I have to
I did fist year psych at uni... tho i doubt id be that much help . I still have my book somewhere... its just a matter of finding it
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i believe Kim's coach knows what to teach or what it takes for Kim to be on top. i believe her coach knows what Kim needs to work on...

kim really has improved from last year... i think she's more aggressive now. and she rushes to the net more often... i think we hadn't seen all the improvements because of the unfortunate injuries she's had.

if not for her injuries this year... i don't see any reason why she shouldn't be lifting big titles...

i really hope she comes back stronger than ever!

we miss Kimmy... right guys!
yes, we do!
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post #13 of 20 (permalink) Old Mar 24th, 2004, 01:45 PM
 
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I think Marc is very good coach for Kim. There very good friends and that's very importent. But offcourse Kim her game can be inproved and I think that Marc can be the one to do it!!!

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Hey thanks for the offer of help guys, if I need any I'll be back
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post #15 of 20 (permalink) Old Mar 25th, 2004, 06:51 AM
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Naomi!
Essays suck. I'm doingthis technology assignment, its so boring. It sucks
I did Eduactional Psychology last year. It wasn't too bad!
Wow! We have some really smart people on this board! (And no I'm not refering to myself )

We will miss you Kim!.


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