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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old Mar 18th, 2004, 05:42 PM Thread Starter
 
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Message to ALL CCLers:


1) Due to certain matters I have observed the past weeks I'd like to point out the following in order to keep things allright:

We have some Rules of Conduct in CCL. Therefore keep your posts in line with these rules please.

2) Rules of Conduct have been adapted today, not as a change of policy, but extra points have been added to clarify matters as a consequence of some issues I've recently been dealing with in CCL.

So I invite everyone to read the Rules again to help smoothen things here.

Thank you for your understanding!


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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old Mar 19th, 2004, 07:37 PM Thread Starter
 
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Sorry, but guessed I might attract some attention now


Mod message:


Please READ our Rules of Conduct before posting.

It's written in plain English, so I do think it's not too much asked to take some things into consideration before posting.

Thanks.


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Very crafty and it worked - I have now read the rules again and hope that your msg is not directed at me (although I admit to using the "f" word in a few limericks). If I have caused offence to anyone I am sorry, but I hope I have kept to the rules

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Ingrid shame on you, you scared me




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I read it yesterday though

"Ik weet dat wij ons erdoor slaan, dat we zij aan zij blijven staan
Tot alle stormen zijn verstomd en er een nieuwe lente komt
En alles weer begint van voor af aan..."

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Ingrid shame on you, you scared me

so sorry but you know me, wicked

No really, I needed to go to such measures though. I was not focusing on one person or so, no, it's in general; too much intervention had to be done lately. Sorry again.


What were you thinking, that I was posting that Kim was married in Las Vegas? I'm not Pam!
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What were you thinking, that I was posting that Kim was married in Las Vegas? I'm not Pam!
lol maybe that would have been better because you made me getting a heart attack
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It kinda scared me when you put "Oh no Kim!!" for the title I was like thinking something worse happened to Kim -not that anything would be worse, I'm praying

btw I'm glad it's nothing serious
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so sorry but you know me, wicked

No really, I needed to go to such measures though. I was not focusing on one person or so, no, it's in general; too much intervention had to be done lately. Sorry again.


What were you thinking, that I was posting that Kim was married in Las Vegas? I'm not Pam!
Don't apologize Ingrid, it's fine I had already read the thread though

Re married in las vegas, I'm still over analyzing anything I can find of lol

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bump

posted this in other threads already, so at the risk of being seen as a spammer in my own lounge :

[MOD message:
In regard to lovekimmie's post in the non-tounament articles thread, and some others who pointed it out to me some days ago (thank you all again ) , I'd like to inform you all that:


the site: http://site.voila.fr/kimetlleyton
has many of their pics which were made/scanned by me for CCL.

To list them:
PHOTOS1 'ball hopman cup'
PHOTOS2 'COUPLE' no 15
Kim et Lleyton TV: no 1 à 10
PAGES ARTICLES: copy of Match
FAN ZONE: copy of Match

I have written to the owner/contact person of that site and received a reply that could have been more understanding.
Not to disclose the content of a private email, but basically I was sort of accused on just putting my name under pics to claim them for CCL.

So I wrote again, I'm not to be fooled with if someone makes me angry, that these pics were:

or taken directly by me or made from recordings I made first of all,
or that I had to scan the media pics/adapt them at times, to get them online,
and that all these actions require a lot of time that I have to sacrifice.

So I invited the person to do like me; that I don't care that these images are there if he/she then do all such work (scanning, making pics at tournaments, making pics from TV,...) for his/her site like I have to do. If not; that I consider it as pure disrespectful behaviour from his/her side for the work of others, who are doing this non-commercial work. He:she even doesn't bother to give credit to CCL (just blo**y stealing it, easier I suppose).

Furthermore, I added that all these pics are posted here on CCL, exclusively for CCL (or for the people I give permission to put it online on their site, like Lleyton's site), and that this is clearly posted here as such. So this fact makes it even more disrespectful from him/her.
I have asked AGAIN that he/she would remove ALL my stuff on the site without further delay.

So far this news for you all.

If my stuff continues to be up there, I will go to other measures. The site has almost nothing original without my work... If I let this to be continued, so will others keep on stealing my work to promote their own Kim sites, but then, they don't know me yet.

As I can disclose my own emails; please find here the first one I wrote to that site: (sorry, in French) I think I was clear but pretty polite.

A l'attention de l'administrateur

concerne: http://site.voila.fr/kimetlleyton


J'ai remarqué que votre site utilise un certain nombre de mes photos de Kim et Lleyton, et ceci SANS autorisation de moi-même.

Il est bien marqué au site CCL que ses photos sont seulement pour CCL et pas pour des autres sites. On peut bien copier mes photos, mais seulement pour utilisation PRIVEE!

Par conséquent je vous demande de bien vouloir annuler TOUTES MES photos (elles sont toutes marquées, comme vous le savez), et ceci sans délai.

Je vous remercie pour votre compréhension.

Sincèrement,

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[Mod message (another one , yes, sorry )

btw, further to my post above re stealing of my work, one could say that I'm just whining because if you put things online you're bound to come across people stealing it one day for non-intented purposes.

I have to reply to such people that indeed I best shouldn't bother to do anything like making pics, or buying newspapers/magazines and scan the pics there, or anything else I do for other Kim (and Lleyton) fans.

But then, if I (or others who do so much work here) would be thinking in such terms (and I contemplated this, I have to admit), than we wouldn't have much to discuss or share with deprived Kim fans all over the world, would it.

As over the years (over at yahoo first or now here at wtaworld) we tried to build a community for Kim fans no matter from where they came, it would just be killing that community then if I (or others here for that matter) would stop doing all such work because some disrecpectful people are around (and who are maybe rather jealous of our place, or prefer to take things easy and just copy/paste whatever they can find from other fans).

So I keep on doing as much as I can (sometimes less or nothing, sometimes a lot) but at the same time I don't just let people wait and sit in their chair 'til I have spent another number of hours on pics and things like that, to steal it here and put it online somewhere else.
I am a nice person, but not soooooo nice LOL. This old lady has still a few tricks in her hat; I'm not done with some yet!
I am not for nothing a wicked mod at times!

Your atm angry Mod,

Ingrid

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PS (message especially intented for women/girls as we have quite some here ):

I have always believed, and experienced it as a true fact of life, that if you are just letting things be (although you could do something against it) people will always 'run over you', use you.
If you then react, like I do as I'm quite assertive , and especially when you are female, you are soon considered to be 'difficult', a 'bitch'.
Well, I rather like to be seen as bitchy then. there is nothing wrong with standing up for yourself, and still too many women first of all like to be liked, want to please people...instead of daring to stand up for themselves.
Just a thought in this regard.

Off my soap box (sorry, I can't help it, it's in my genes I think
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Yeah I saw it on that site and cringed.
I straight away though if Ingrid sees this they are in big trouble!
You are entitled to though.

We will miss you Kim!.


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It kinda scared me when you put "Oh no Kim!!" for the title I was like thinking something worse happened to Kim -not that anything would be worse, I'm praying

btw I'm glad it's nothing serious
Yup me too. I should say that is a very attractive title, and heart-attacked title too.
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post #14 of 16 (permalink) Old Apr 21st, 2004, 04:25 PM
 
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Yep Ingrid, u do have genes of a leader and a Mod too.
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I'm sorry to hear someone has stolen your work, Ingrid. You truly do spoil us here with all your work and I wish there was more we could to do protect it. Right now the net works on an honor system -- don't take or please give credit -- and it is quite unfortunate. The only thing I know to do is make your watermarks gigantic so they can't claim it for themselves.

I definitely respect the work you do here and am very grateful for all you have done for us. That's why I linked to this place especially and try to promote it as I can on my own site So, you have my absolute and full support, and I've been told I have some clout in the online tennis community If there's anything I can do to help, just let me know.
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