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"Guilbeau said the suspensions were the result of team rules violations. He said the players will remain suspended until he elects to reinstate them."

What a joke. I have heard from so many people that he is an absolute nightmare.
It's not accurate to call it a violation of team rules when in honesty probably not one player on the team and probably not even the assistant coaches would think that this infraction deserves a suspension.

The suspensions were a result of "Tennis Nazi" rules violations.




This is where the Virginia AD needs to step in. The AD needs to tell the head coach look anything tennis related, you are in charge of. But anything discipline related, you have to run it by the AD's office first. The AD's office should have final say on a scale of 1 to 10 how bad an infraction is and what the discipline should be. Because in the extreme OCD brain of the Virginia coach his scale only goes from 8-10. Any infraction is a big infraction to him.

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hooatthebeach joined to make those post, so i think either he is the coach or he/she is in love with him
Sorry.... neither. But, I did join to comment on something I felt passionate about. I am a parent of a college tennis player. I have experience with other coaches and other programs as well as knowing most of his current players. I feel I have an unique prospective and felt the need to post an opinion and move things back to a more positive side where it belongs.
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It's not accurate to call it a violation of team rules when in honesty probably not one player on the team and probably not even the assistant coaches would think that this infraction deserves a suspension.

The suspensions were a result of "Tennis Nazi" rules violations.




This is where the Virginia AD needs to step in. The AD needs to tell the head coach look anything tennis related, you are in charge of. But anything discipline related, you have to run it by the AD's office first. The AD's office should have final say on a scale of 1 to 10 how bad an infraction is and what the discipline should be. Because in the extreme OCD brain of the Virginia coach his scale only goes from 8-10. Any infraction is a big infraction to him.
I wish that was true, but knowing how other programs handle similar situations, the players knew this was rule and knew they shouldn't have done it. Maybe a suspension is a drastic measure, but maybe we don't know the entire story of what lead up to this extreme measure. I do know of others in other programs that have gotten suspended for less. If the punishment fit the crime may not be up to us to judge without the whole story (which we will never be privy to). We may have to trust that the coaches make decisions for the right reasons.
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There you go assuming again. Do some digging:

• FIVE players found a ride to a bar several miles away. Were told not to leave hotel with storm coming and obviously drinking on road frowned upon.
• Were turned in by their own teammates.

Source: East coast administrator

Obviously the kids are gonna claim less than truth publicly and notice the school has backed the coach completely. This was more than a snowball fight.

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I didn't assume anything. I went by this.

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Where does this article say anything about them staying there for safety or going AWOL? It says that they were seen having a snowball fight at the Corner, which is essentially student central in downtown Charlottesville. That's not exactly drinking or partying.


Guys beachman jr. (not the infamous Beachman who posted on the women's volleyball board) knows a nice trick. Whenever discipline is served, or players transfer, etc. paperwork has to go through the administrator's office. So make a friend out of an administrator at the conference office or university office and they can find out about the dirty laundry for you.

Big props to beachman jr.
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potential underage drinking

Now this story has drastically changed to potential underage drinking which is against the law.

suspended players included under legal drinking age

so. - Cassie Mercer
fr. - Meghan Kelley
and maybe
jr. - Victoria Olivarez
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Worth noting that the lineups for Indoors have everyone but Morton on it

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Worth noting that the lineups for Indoors have everyone but Morton on it
That's a shame for the team and for Skylar. She had an outstanding freshman year at UCLA. After 2 years at UCLA and sitting out one year, she transferred to UVa She is currently playing great tennis after working with the UVa coaches for the past year. No one wins in this situation. I hope that life lessons have been learned and the team is stronger and better than before. And, I hope that Skylar is able to get back on the courts soon.
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Haha wow. You really think I'm some sort of fool, don't you? I wouldn't come on here and make things up. I am friends with several former players, and I agree with your point that "he is respected by many parents and players but not all."

I would not come on here and say something like that unless I had heard it directly from people who had experience with him. I do think that he can be an excellent coach for the right type of girl, especially from a pure tennis perspective, but if you look at his record of player attrition, just to start, it's clear that he has a very divisive style.

I also have many family members who live in Charlottesville and have spent a significant amount of time there. I'm not just putting together stuff I read online.

I completely respect your opinion, and you make many valid points, but please don't act like I am some crazy person posting BS, because that is not my style at all. The point of a forum is that people can share their opinions, which I have done based on facts and stories that I have heard DIRECTLY from people who have played for and interacted with Coach Guilbeau. Your first post is very fair, but the other two paint me as some sort of hack, and I find that offensive.
Many people talk about how many transfer out of this program, but they have 3 current members that have transferred in.

I have never understood why there is such a high transfer rate across the nation in tennis. Players from other programs even transfer for their senior years. This issue is not unique to UVa. I know one player that has played tennis at 3 different D1 schools in 3 years. When you have only 6 players that contribute during a match, it's hard to force a player to stay on your team when they may play without the intensity needed to win. It is equally hard for a coach to not be tempted to try to improve the team each year with new recruits. It's a dilemma and there's no easy fix. UVa has had a lot of publicity around it due to an article written several years ago. However, look at the rosters of other teams and you will be amazed at how many transfers are on the team.
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That's a shame for the team and for Skylar. She had an outstanding freshman year at UCLA. After 2 years at UCLA and sitting out one year, she transferred to UVa She is currently playing great tennis after working with the UVa coaches for the past year. No one wins in this situation. I hope that life lessons have been learned and the team is stronger and better than before. And, I hope that Skylar is able to get back on the courts soon.
There is a chance she could also be injured or further suspended. Her name is still listed on the roster and injured players aren't listed on lineups (ie Niehaus for Ohio State). Her sitout could also be from grades, which caused her to leave UCLA in the first place.

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I am reading a lot of gossip and sour grape type opinions, but still no actual stories - confirmed or hearsay. You know who else is "controlling" and "difficult"? Bill Belichick & Greg Popovich, among others.

I'm not putting "Lil' Napoleon" Gilbeau in that category just yet but I haven't heard any stories of him abusing players or committing other atrocities, so until then I'm just going to consider him a great coach with a difficult personality.
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Re: Five UVa women's tennis players suspended

According to the first article I saw on this, the suspensions were "indefinite". Have they ended yet? It seems like UVA is doing alright.
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According to the first article I saw on this, the suspensions were "indefinite". Have they ended yet? It seems like UVA is doing alright.
I believe so, since it seems like all of the girls have played since then.
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All have returned except Macie Epstein who was not with the team at Georgia this past Thursday.
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OK, thanks, folks.
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