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Old Nov 12th, 2003, 11:42 AM   #1
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Angry A "Kim for Belgian sportswomen of the year" campaign on Flemish TV?

I have the feeling that Flemish TV wants to have Kim as sportswomen of the year. After her (great) win at the Masters, I've noticed that they "think" that Kim was at least as good as Justine this year. Examples:

- Carl Maes saying that Kim is really the number one this year because she was more consistent
- Els Jackxens (sp?) saying that slams are all about tradition but that people "inside tennis" saying that winning the masters is more impressive than winning a slam
- at VRT TT: putting the year-end number one of Justine on the same "height" as Kim leading the prize money list.

Especially the second example is so wrong imo. Kim winning the masters is a great achievement, but winning a slam is more prestigious and more difficult imo.The first: well it's Carl Maes (who I like btw), so he's probably subjective. The third could be nitpicking from my part

What do you think? Do the Flemish media have a "hidden agenda"? Or am I just seeing ghosts as a too subjective Justine fan?

Ok, and I don't want fights in here. If this thread evolves into a fight, I'll delete it.
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Old Nov 12th, 2003, 11:48 AM   #2
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Dunno, but the French speaking medias does the contrary

In "La dernière heure" they already said that there's no way Kim can have it, because it's so obvious Justine is the best of the year
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let's fight!!!

no really..you're right. I often wonder if they know anything about tennis. I've never ever heard a player say that the Masters are more important then a GS. It's prestigious to get into the Masters, because it means that you had a great year.

But when you look at the players: they're all tired, not very motivated (look at the slaughters of Dementieva, Cappy overweighted).

Anyway, there's no doubt that Justine Henin-hardenne will be the Player of the Year. It would be incredibly weird to have Kim as Belgian Sportswomen of the year then huh.
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Kim did it before, K. The first year that she won it I believe Domi was ranked above her at the end of the year (err can anyone confirm this, because I'm not 100% sure )
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Yeah, I've notice it too.
I would be 'dissapointed' if it were Kim (which I doubt), but I don't think Kim would be that pleased, either... I think she would feel a bit odd; She has said herself Justine was the best player this year (and noone can deny that). I also doubt either of our 2 tennis-stars cares too much for the trophy. They both have acchieved so much on international level ... I don't know ...
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yeah, back then, Domi was ranked 18th or so.....but Kim won her first tournament that year (as did Juju) and almost defeated the later US Open Champ Serena. Belgian press is not objectif enough... My fave is Kim, but I can say, Justine is the more deserving one of the two.
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Kim did it before, K. The first year that she won it I believe Domi was ranked above her at the end of the year (err can anyone confirm this, because I'm not 100% sure )
Domi was no Player of the Year back then Joris

Justine will be Player of the Year..which means she was the best player this year. So it would be insane to have someone else elected abover her
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I think Justine deserves it more but I wouldn't be surprise if they find a way to have two Belgian sportswomen this year
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Domi was no Player of the Year back then Joris

Justine will be Player of the Year..which means she was the best player this year. So it would be insane to have someone else elected abover her
Oh pffft you know what I meant
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Yeah, I've notice it too.
I would be 'dissapointed' if it were Kim (which I doubt), but I don't think Kim would be that pleased, either... I think she would feel a bit odd; She has said herself Justine was the best player this year (and noone can deny that). I also doubt either of our 2 tennis-stars cares too much for the trophy. They both have acchieved so much on international level ... I don't know ...
Oh yeah you're right: I'm not saying that it is Kim's fault, not at all. Kim has indeed admitted that Justine had the better year and deserves the number 1 ranking.

And I don't agree with you that Justine doesn't care about the trophy. I think she wants to be sportswoman of the year at least once. And I think she would be highly disappointed if she doesn't win it this year.
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There's a hidden agenda for anything in Belgium

But it's about time Justine gets this trophy, Kim has already got it 4 years in a row, Justine zero, and they both followed the same path in their carreer!

I mean, it's incredible to have 2 girls who perform so well in a competitive sport such as tennis, and Kim would be a deserving Sportswoman of the Year, but if she gets it this year too, I don't know what Justine should do to get it?

Maye she should win the Golden Grand Slam and pray for Kim NOT winning the Masters again

Remember, last year before the Masters Justine was ranked ahead of Kim, so she could have had a shot at this award had Kim not won the Masters...
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There's a hidden agenda for anything in Belgium

But it's about time Justine gets this trophy, Kim has already got it 4 years in a row, Justine zero, and they both followed the same path in their carreer!

I mean, it's incredible to have 2 girls who perform so well in a competitive sport such as tennis, and Kim would be a deserving Sportswoman of the Year, but if she gets it this year too, I don't know what Justine should do to get it?

Maye she should win the Golden Grand Slam and pray for Kim NOT winning the Masters again

Remember, last year before the Masters Justine was ranked ahead of Kim, so she could have had a shot at this award had Kim not won the Masters...
Yep but all 4 years, Kim was the (sometimes slightly) better player, so tough luck for Justine, but Kim deserved it all 4 times (well except for the first year but that had nothing to do with Justine).
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Oh yeah you're right: I'm not saying that it is Kim's fault, not at all. Kim has indeed admitted that Justine had the better year and deserves the number 1 ranking.

And I don't agree with you that Justine doesn't care about the trophy. I think she wants to be sportswoman of the year at least once. And I think she would be highly disappointed if she doesn't win it this year.
I know what you mean. I think you missunderstood me (or I expressed myself badly ).
Of course sh 'cares'. She wants to be recognides as the best nelgian this year, but I think she wouldn't be thàt surprised ... after all that has been written bout her in the press this year!? I don't know, I hope she wins it. But if she doesn't, the only ones who are making a fool out of themselves are the belgian sportspress

The sollution of 2 'sportsladys of the year' would be simply embarrasing and stupid! It wasn't too hard to admit Kim was the best duringprevious years, but now it is (clearly) vice versa, it woùld be ?? If they do that (which I doubt) they are :retard:
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Justine deserves the trophy and she will get it.

You think Els Jackxens will make the difference?
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You think Els Jackxens will make the difference?
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