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Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:14 PM
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Is sharapova better than Kournikova???
She may be inexperienced but Shara has already won two titles while korny languishes titleless. Shara has a solid game and once she gains more and more experience playing top players she's sure to go far. Mentally she's much more together than anna ever was.
So even with her lack of doubles success that anna has I still say that Shara is BETTER than kourny.
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:18 PM
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If Anna had played more tier 4's she would probably have won a few tournaments. You can't compare the tennis of now to 5 years ago. At the age of 16 Anna was SEMI-FINALIST at Wimbledon. Anna had by far too many injuries to be fairly judged. Hopefully Masha stays fit, then she has a great career ahead.
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:18 PM
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Can't forget Anna's real claim to fame-
WIMBLEDON 1997 semi's.
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:20 PM
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Its not about injuries or burnout or bad teen years that derail careers its about results. So far as a singles player shara is better and doubles is pretty much irrelevant.
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:24 PM
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Oh God! Not one of these threads where people will find a way to bash both players!
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:39 PM
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I look at it this way. Both Anna and Maria have emerged at different times on the tour; therefore, their results will be different. The good thing about Maria winning these small events early in her career is that she will not have to deal with the "titleless curse" that has followed Kournikova around like an albatross for most of Anna's career. Maria has made a smart decision to play small events, get the experience and overcome the hype in ways that Kournikova was never allowed to. So, in a sense, Maria has learned from Anna's mistakes. If Anna had played smaller events earlier in her career and got those wins, her confidence and career may be in a different place at this time. As for Maria, she is still very young and deserves credit for trying to build her career on results and not allow herself to get lost in the hype.
I guess what I am trying to say is that these threads invite bashing of one player over another. It is a disservice to both women. They deserve better.
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:42 PM
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this thread is sooooo stupid when sharapova hasn't even played a full year on the tour!!
and if u HAD to compare them, kournikova's had the better career so far.
look at the facts! grandslams, big tourneys. not a couple of small tournaments like tokyo and quebec!!
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:44 PM
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I like Anna K more.
Not that that has anything to do with this thread I admit.
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:47 PM
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Maria has her titles, but I think that it is due to smart-play. Anna at the time was top-5 candidate and of course had no business playing tier III´s and IV. Even without the titles I think Anna was better at a younger age than Maria....but of course Maria made the smart move to winning the small titles first to dodge the hype.
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:49 PM
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you are remembered for playing well in the big tournaments, not the little ones.
i think maria WILL have a better career than anna, but like i said earlier, not yet, its too early to compare
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:50 PM
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Better at what? 
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by bandabou
Maria has her titles, but I think that it is due to smart-play. Anna at the time was top-5 candidate and of course had no business playing tier III´s and IV. Even without the titles I think Anna was better at a younger age than Maria....but of course Maria made the smart move to winning the small titles first to dodge the hype.
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OMG i totally agree with you!! the teenage kournikova was too busy beating top players and making grand slam semis to be winning titles 'beating' players outside top 100 in the final. sharapova is a big talent, but i think kournikova versus sharapova at the same age would favour anna. sharapova doesn't seem like she is going to caught up in the whole glamour side of the sport, and i think her record will probably be better, but the reality is that she still has a lot to prove against the top players before we can say how far she will go. if she gets stronger though i really think that she could be something special
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 01:56 PM
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". Maria has made a smart decision to play small events, get the experience and overcome the hype in ways that Kournikova was never allowed to"
Anna wasn't allowed? LOL...Anna went for the glamour and the glitz
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by DA FOREHAND
". Maria has made a smart decision to play small events, get the experience and overcome the hype in ways that Kournikova was never allowed to"
Anna wasn't allowed? LOL...Anna went for the glamour and the glitz
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Yep and that decision will hunt her forever it seems! Heck even Venus won her first title at a tier III: Oklahoma.....there are few players who break out at the big stage immediately...Serena´s run from Paris to Lipton was a HUGE HUGE run for a 17 year old kid.
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Nov 3rd, 2003, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by apoet29
I look at it this way. Both Anna and Maria have emerged at different times on the tour; therefore, their results will be different. The good thing about Maria winning these small events early in her career is that she will not have to deal with the "titleless curse" that has followed Kournikova around like an albatross for most of Anna's career. Maria has made a smart decision to play small events, get the experience and overcome the hype in ways that Kournikova was never allowed to. So, in a sense, Maria has learned from Anna's mistakes. If Anna had played smaller events earlier in her career and got those wins, her confidence and career may be in a different place at this time. As for Maria, she is still very young and deserves credit for trying to build her career on results and not allow herself to get lost in the hype.
I guess what I am trying to say is that these threads invite bashing of one player over another. It is a disservice to both women. They deserve better.
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never allowed to? No one forced her to play those tournaments. She chose her schedule like all players do.
also comparing two players is not a disservice. Whats wrong with you people? In every other sport this is done: football, soccer, basketball, etc etc... can you imagine track fans not wanting to discuss who is better between kellie white and marion jones? Hell its fun and interesting to compare atheletes! Some of you are just too sensitive. Im not bashing kournikova as a person I just think her tennis record, even with the slam semi, is just not as impressive as actually winning titles.
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