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Old Mar 13th, 2006, 09:36 PM   #271
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I guess line calls come and go, but there are a handful of situations where the calls are so incredibly (and obviously) bad, that it really gets one's dander up- like the Serena Williams / Jennifer Capriati USO match a few years back. I can't remember ever being so angry over a line call as I was when they called that Serena backhand down the line winner out.
Nothing against Serena, but being a Capriati fan, I loved it. Not very sportsmanlike of me, I know, but at least I'm honest about it, you know. It's like, fuck, a win is a win, you know.
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i was just sent a really rare pix of chrissie walking to the court with francoise durr in the 1973 french semi! enjoy.
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Old Mar 20th, 2006, 10:07 AM   #273
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this is a more recent pic: indian wells 2006

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Old Mar 20th, 2006, 11:01 AM   #274
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Elena and Masha may be two of the most attractive ladies on the tour today, but the cutest girl on this photo is the one in the middle.
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Old Apr 23rd, 2006, 11:00 PM   #276
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I seek all chris Evert double tiltles since 1970 !

Please, Rollo, give me all titles won by chris, the surface and the date place.

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Amazing Evert! I was doing some research today and just wondered how many times Chris lost in the 1st round of an event. Though I'm trusting the unreliable WTA website, the first first round loss I found was the Virginia Slims of Boston in March of '76 to Dianne Fromholtz, a lefty who often gave her trouble. Oddly enough, this was the first time I've seen in Chris' career where she even lost before the quarterfinals of an event. Has there ever been another player who upon beginning her career, immediately went to the top echelon without even a couple of losses to lower ranked players?

Chris' Career Early Round Defeats
'76 1R VS Boston Fromholtz 26 62 63
'79 1R Avon Florida Greer Stevens 62 63
'83 3R Wimbledon Kathy Jordan 61 76
'85 1R VS Champs Kathy Jordan 62 06 62
'87 3R VS Florida Kate Gompert 36 64 62
'87 1R VS Champs Sylvia Hanika 64 64
'88 3R French Open Arantxa Sanchez-Vicario 61 76
'88 3R Olympics Raffaella Reggi 26 64 61
'89 2R Indian Wells Hana Mandlikova 36 76 60
'89 2R European Open Barbara Paulus 64 61
'89 2R Canadian Open Anne Minter 64 75
Total: 11 Career Early Round Losses

Note: Fromholtz also beat Evert in her first match at the '77 Colgate Series Championships, but Evert beat Wade, Navratilova and King to win the event.
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Hi, preacherfan: Check out ChrisEvert.net. It's truly comprehensive. Alas, Chrissie did suffer the rare early round losses:

When she was still just 15 and before she shocked Margaret Court, she lost the following first-round matches in 1970:
Haverford: 1R lost to Kerry Melville-Reid 4-6, 4-6
South Orange: 1R lost to Peachy Bartkowicz 2-6, 1-6


In early 1971, she suffered a shocking first-round loss on clay to Denise Carter in the Virginia Slims of Fort Lauderdale, no less: 2-6, 7-6, 4-6. This has to rank as one of the most surprising results in the game!

From that point on, however, there was no loss before the quarterfinals until that surprise to Fromholtz in Boston in 1976. As you noted, there probably was no other player who suffered fewer upset losses in her career than Chris, especially when she was coming up. From the time she truly emerged at Forest Hills in 1971, her consistency and brilliance were remarkable.

She's the true queen of the game in my book!
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I can think of one more:
83 2R Tokyo Queens Lisa Bonder 75 46 64

Such near-immunity to early losses (from the age of 18 to 30, she suffered just four!!) is unmatched in modern tennis and yet another example of Chris' consistency. Also if you look at the names of her adversaries, most were former, future or current top 10 players.
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Look at ten of the best players in the world and Chris Evert's record in her first five matches with each player. In every instance but one (Guess who? Nancy Richey), she won at least 3 of the five. Casals, Durr and Masthoff went 0-5 vs. Evert. Goolagong won 1 and the rest 2. Richey was 5-0... amazing!

Another interesting fact, Evert never trailed in her h2h with any of these players other than Richey whom she overtook 6-5 by Richey's retirement.

Amazing stuff: She beat Wade 61 61 in their first encounter. In their 3rd match, she defeated King in '72 (#1 in world) 61 60. As a 15 year old, she beat Court 76 76 in Margaret's Slam year.

Again, no modern player has ever been so ready to step on the court and compete from day one on the tour. Can you imagine a junior coming out and beating Mauresmo, Henin, Sharapova and the rest from day one? Navratilova didn't. Graf didn't. Hingis didn't. Venus didn't. Probably Seles, Serena and Austin were the closest, but they still lost their shares of matches before rising to the top.
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Look at ten of the best players in the world and Chris Evert's record in her first five matches with each player. In every instance but one (Guess who? Nancy Richey), she won at least 3 of the five. Casals, Durr and Masthoff went 0-5 vs. Evert. Goolagong won 1 and the rest 2. Richey was 5-0... amazing!

Another interesting fact, Evert never trailed in her h2h with any of these players other than Richey whom she overtook 6-5 by Richey's retirement.

Amazing stuff: She beat Wade 61 61 in their first encounter. In their 3rd match, she defeated King in '72 (#1 in world) 61 60. As a 15 year old, she beat Court 76 76 in Margaret's Slam year.

Again, no modern player has ever been so ready to step on the court and compete from day one on the tour. Can you imagine a junior coming out and beating Mauresmo, Henin, Sharapova and the rest from day one? Navratilova didn't. Graf didn't. Hingis didn't. Venus didn't. Probably Seles, Serena and Austin were the closest, but they still lost their shares of matches before rising to the top.

A better way to put Chris's career in perspective is this. Would we have the Russians, Kim Clijsters, Tracy Austin, Monica Seles, Williams sisters, Martina Hingis, and Lindsay Davenport without Chris? Because of the two-hander
that she brought to the game.
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Look at ten of the best players in the world and Chris Evert's record in her first five matches with each player. In every instance but one (Guess who? Nancy Richey), she won at least 3 of the five. Casals, Durr and Masthoff went 0-5 vs. Evert. Goolagong won 1 and the rest 2. Richey was 5-0... amazing!

Another interesting fact, Evert never trailed in her h2h with any of these players other than Richey whom she overtook 6-5 by Richey's retirement.

Amazing stuff: She beat Wade 61 61 in their first encounter. In their 3rd match, she defeated King in '72 (#1 in world) 61 60. As a 15 year old, she beat Court 76 76 in Margaret's Slam year.

Again, no modern player has ever been so ready to step on the court and compete from day one on the tour. Can you imagine a junior coming out and beating Mauresmo, Henin, Sharapova and the rest from day one? Navratilova didn't. Graf didn't. Hingis didn't. Venus didn't. Probably Seles, Serena and Austin were the closest, but they still lost their shares of matches before rising to the top.
As amazing as all of that really is, it's also accurate to give props to her father having the amazing foresight to have molded and guided his daughter (when everyone else was playing the Hopman attacking game) at such an early age by perfecting that precision baseline style of play. Her game came out of the blocks with such shocking precision, as well as a virtually un-readable two-handed backhand that none of the top players were used to seeing, or were prepared to counter. Richey had a one-handed backhand and a baseline viciousness probably equal to Evert's which explains her giving Chris so much trouble, but all of the rest of the top players were either all-court or net rushers. It also bears mentioning that the win over King in 72 was on Florida clay. A look at their first five encounters on grass paints a decidedly different picture. Just a few thoughts, none of which to diminish the greatness of how that little catholic school-girl from Ft. Lauderdale came storming out of the blocks- it's amazing!
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As amazing as all of that really is, it's also accurate to give props to her father having the amazing foresight to have molded and guided his daughter (when everyone else was playing the Hopman attacking game) at such an early age by perfecting that precision baseline style of play. Her game came out of the blocks with such shocking precision, as well as a virtually un-readable two-handed backhand that none of the top players were used to seeing, or were prepared to counter. Richey had a one-handed backhand and a baseline viciousness probably equal to Evert's which explains her giving Chris so much trouble, but all of the rest of the top players were either all-court or net rushers. It also bears mentioning that the win over King in 72 was on Florida clay. A look at their first five encounters on grass paints a decidedly different picture. Just a few thoughts, none of which to diminish the greatness of how that little catholic school-girl from Ft. Lauderdale came storming out of the blocks- it's amazing!

I would say in sport you haven't seen it since LeBron James.
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