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Old Jun 18th, 2014, 03:13 PM   #1
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Patent Office Lowers the Boom

U.S. Patent and Trademark office cancels protection of Washington team name
Posted by Mike Florio on June 18, 2014, 10:31 AM EDT
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Whenever the government gets involved in the question of whether the Washington NFL team should change its name, people who support the current name ask whether the government has anything better to do. For one specific agency of the government, the answer is a resounding no.

That’s the same one-word response the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office has supplied regarding the question of whether the name should continue to enjoy federal trademark protection. Via the Washington Post, the agency has canceled the registration, calling the name “disparaging to Native Americans.”

“This victory was a long time coming and reflects the hard work of many attorneys at our firm,” attorney Jesse Witten of Drinker Biddle & Reath told the Post.

It was indeed a long time coming, with the first challenge to the name filed back in 1992. The initial case failed on a technicality that the plaintiffs believe has been remedied in this case.

Moving forward, appeals are certain and lawyers will get paid and the issue won’t be settled for months if not years. In the interim, the ruling will serve only to give more momentum to the increasingly loud and persuasive voices that oppose the name.

If the name, after all appeals, is deemed to not be protected by trademark laws, anyone and everyone will be able to sell merchandise bearing the name and colors without the team having the ability to enforce its rights through legal action. While that may not be enough to compel owner Daniel Snyder to abandon his all-caps-never and/or “over my dead body” insistence on keeping the name, it would be the first tangible evidence of an economic consequence for continuing to cling to a name that the ever-evolving English language has over the slow march of time discarded from the list of socially acceptable terms.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/0...n_5507169.html
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Old Jun 18th, 2014, 03:47 PM   #2
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the ever-evolving English language has over the slow march of time discarded from the list of socially acceptable terms.
OKay. I can go with that. OTOH if "white" and "black" are still acceptable. Plus, revoking a trademark based on a change in "social acceptable" would seem to be a dangerous precedent. "Much of the public doesn't like your company's name anymore, we're revoking your trademark." ?? The lunatics are running the asylum.
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OKay. I can go with that. OTOH if "white" and "black" are still acceptable. Plus, revoking a trademark based on a change in "social acceptable" would seem to be a dangerous precedent. "Much of the public doesn't like your company's name anymore, we're revoking your trademark." ?? The lunatics are running the asylum.

Funny....I don't see anyone going after the Red Soxs......must be something other than the color....Blackhawks are fine.....white soxs are fine.....what am I missing?
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Re: Patent Office Lowers the Boom

The USPTO (US Patent and Trademark Office, the bolded word being the relevant one here) ought to stay the fuck out of this. Clearly, Dan Snyder has valid ownership for NFL purposes of the use of the Redskins logo (as the late Jack Kent Cooke did for many years) though IMO he should change it.

He also owns the copyright on said commercial use of the name itself, governed by the Library of Congress. But just as the OP ITT had no problem with the illicit taping of Donald Sterling's indeed ugly words being used in the pending forced sale of the Clippers, I presume she's also OK with this case of "the ends justify the means".

Whatever happened to the genuinely empowering concept of the boycott, whether by Rosa Parks and Martin Luther King against the Montgomery, AL bus company (bankrupting the owners, FWIW) or against the apartheid regime in South Africa.
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Funny....I don't see anyone going after the Red Soxs......must be something other than the color....Blackhawks are fine.....white soxs are fine.....what am I missing?
That POV is some kind of funny, thank goodness he's one of those annoying posters that's in my recycleable bin. SMH
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That POV is some kind of funny, thank goodness he's one of those annoying posters that's in my recycleable bin. SMH
What is funny MYKARMA, is that you never have anything to say about the actual points so you keep trotting out personal attacks. Please do us both a favor and put me on your ignore list. Thanks.
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Funny....I don't see anyone going after the Red Soxs......must be something other than the color....Blackhawks are fine.....white soxs are fine.....what am I missing?


Yes, good point because those names you mention are based on "black" and "white" as used for groups of people.

Would there be an uproar if it was the Washington Indians or Washington Native Americans? If not then why is it okay to use "white" and "black" for groups of people but not "red."?
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Well.....when I get my first billion....I am going to create an expansion team call the Callifornia Yellows.......

This is going to be my mascot. Lets see how far I can get.

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So now anybody can use the name. It will be everywhere.
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Well.....when I get my first billion....I am going to create an expansion team call the Callifornia Yellows.......

This is going to be my mascot. Lets see how far I can get.

- That's more like:


IMO a logo that sucks and does warrant public outrage. Including a goofy/disparaging logo doesn't speak to the terminology itself. I could do bhs Whites and find an equally disparaging caricature.

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That IMO shows a proud, strong Native American.
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Ridiculous to pick on Washington when Cleveland is way more tasteless. Even the skin is red.
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Ridiculous to pick on Washington when Cleveland is way more tasteless. Even the skin is red.
Yes. Still, the hoopla is about the term Redskins not the logo.
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- That's more like:


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That IMO shows a proud, strong Native American.
Well, when someone comes out with a team called "The N*****s" with a picture of Mandingo, I hope I can be as proud of the name and image as the Native Americans are supposed to be.
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Well, when someone comes out with a team called "The N*****s" with a picture of Mandingo, I hope I can be as proud of the name and image as the Native Americans are supposed to be.
thank you!!! that term does not merely describe ethnic origin, it is a racial slur
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