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Old Feb 10th, 2014, 04:57 PM   #46
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Kiefer sagte, Lisicki soll draussen bleiben und man soll mit diesem Team in SF antreten.
Dafür ist das Doppel viel zu schwach. Man spielt dort gegen 2-malige GS-Siegerinnen und nicht gegen ein zusammengewürfeltes Team.
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Folglich muss man auf ALG oder Görges oder sogar beide verzichten(Beck). Das ist aktuell ganz knapp und man muss sehen, was in den nächsten Wochen passiert. Wird wieder keine leichte Entscheidung für Rittner
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Folglich muss man auf ALG oder Görges oder sogar beide verzichten(Beck). Das ist aktuell ganz knapp und man muss sehen, was in den nächsten Wochen passiert. Wird wieder keine leichte Entscheidung für Rittner
Wenn du auf beide verzichtest, wer soll denn dann das Doppel mit Sabine spielen? Das kann Annika nun wirklich nicht.
Was Kiefer dazu sagt, interessiert mich wirklich nicht. Er meinte ja auch, dass Sabine ihre Schulter in Bratislava hätte behandeln lassen sollen. Dem hat Petko für mich überzeugend widersprochen.
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Wenn du auf beide verzichtest, wer soll denn dann das Doppel mit Sabine spielen? Das kann Annika nun wirklich nicht.
Was Kiefer dazu sagt, interessiert mich wirklich nicht. Er meinte ja auch, dass Sabine ihre Schulter in Bratislava hätte behandeln lassen sollen. Dem hat Petko für mich überzeugend widersprochen.
Btw: Wo ist Sabine eigentlich?
Die wird wohl mit Olli feiern, dass sie bald die einzige Frau Pocher sein wird wenn Allessandra nun doch den Namen ablegt...
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Geht mir ganz genau so. Aus Sandy Meyer-Wölden wurde plötzlich Alessandra Pocher. Ich wusste erst gar nicht, dass das ein und die selbe Person ist. Da hat sich nicht nur der Nachname geändert, sondern auch der Vorname.
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Ich würde sagen, dass Kerber und Petkovic im Halbfinale auf jeden Fall dabei sein sollten. Und weiter sollte man nach aktueller Form entscheiden. Meiner Ansicht ist dieser Teamgedanke ja schön und gut, aber der wird auch überschätzt. Hätte Kerber verloren, wenn Beck anstatt Görges in der Box gesessen hätte? Und Lisicki, Barthel und Beck sind auch alles andere als Kameradenschweine.
Da hast du absolut recht und das ist ja das tolle an dieser Mannschaft (Annika, Sabine und Mona mit einbezogen)! Deshalb sage ich ja auch, dass es ein Luxusproblem ist. Einen kleinen Bonus haben die vier, die jetzt dabei waren, bei mir halt schon. Hat aber nix mit Freibrief zu tun. Wenn Annika, Sabine oder Mona jetzt solide Leistungen zeigen, dann sind sie natürlich ein Thema. Und da sind wir wieder bei Rittner, denn ich finde, sie hat da in letzter Zeit ein gutes Fingerspitzengefühl bewiesen mit ihren Nominierungen.
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Kerber wins high-quality match to see Germany through

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It’s hard to believe that Germany hasn’t been in a Fed Cup by BNP Paribas semifinal since 1995, but that statistic is now banished to history, thanks to Angelique Kerber’s 63 76(5) victory over Dominika Cibulkova that sees the Germans into this year’s semis. It gave Germany a 3-0 lead, and means the Germans are due to travel to Australia in April’s semifinals.

Although the score reads brutally for the Slovaks, the decisive match was rich in high quality tennis, with even Cibulkova admitting that she played well but Kerber played just a little better. Cibulkova did very well to fight back from a storming start by Kerber, one which saw the German take the first nine points, and while the first set shows a reasonably even 63 scoreline, the fact was that Cibulkova needed to go to deuce on all three games she won, while Kerber was winning most of her games easily.

But the Australian Open runner-up got into the match early in the second set, starting to mobilise the tremendous support for her. Her winners were greeted with increasingly loud cheers, and the atmosphere inside the Aegon Arena became electric.

The problem for the home fans was that Kerber was playing at a very high level.

Her serve was back to the fluency that had deserted her at the Australian Open, her backhand was low and lethal, and her down-the-line forehand, that always looks as if she’s left the hitting point fractionally too late, was finding its target with impressive regularity.

At 5-4, Kerber was two points from putting Germany into the semfinals, but Cibulkova fought back. The tension was heightened by the fact that the Slovak ran out of challenges, so she was unable to question one dubious service winner from the German. But Cibulkova got the set into the tiebreak. Both players were clearly nervous, but Kerber had the greater energy, and although she let a 5-3 lead slip, she held firm to see a Cibulkova forehand drift wide on the German’s first match point.

"I had so much emotion from the team," Kerber said. "It was tough, so I was just trying to play point-by-point. I think I played well, I moved well, I mixed it up well, sometimes aggressive, sometimes defensive, and I’m so happy that we’re now through."

The Slovaks did have one moment of triumph. Midway through the doubles rubber, it was announced that Slovakia had won a gold at the Winter Olympics in Biathlon, bringing out as big a cheer as for one of Cibulkova’s rasping forehands. And perhaps that’s the moral of the story – a wintersports nation such as Slovakia had its attention towards Sochi, whereas Germany’s was very much on the tennis court in Bratislava.
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Wenn du auf beide verzichtest, wer soll denn dann das Doppel mit Sabine spielen? Das kann Annika nun wirklich nicht.
Was Kiefer dazu sagt, interessiert mich wirklich nicht. Er meinte ja auch, dass Sabine ihre Schulter in Bratislava hätte behandeln lassen sollen. Dem hat Petko für mich überzeugend widersprochen.
Btw: Wo ist Sabine eigentlich?
Es ist ja schön und gut wenn die Stimmung ach so toll war, aber wirklich gespielt und was geleistet haben nur Kerber und Petkovic, die anderen waren halt dabei.

Rittner muss gegen Australien auch in den Einzeln abwägen, denn Stosur ist so ein Typ Spieler den einige aus dem Team durchaus schlagen können andere haben es da schwerer. Kerber hat sicher Chancen, H2H ist aber 0-2, Petkovic 0-1 (das war das FC Match).

Bei Görges und Lisicki sieht das besser aus, wobei die beide dafür auch in guter Form sein müssen.
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Is Germany finally doing itself justice?

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It’s been a long time coming, but Germany has finally made it to the semifinals of the Fed Cup by BNP Paribas. Nineteen years in fact, but should it really have taken so long?

When Andrea Petkovic burst onto the scene and broke into the world’s Top 10 late in 2011, she was the leader of a rising generation of German women players. Sabine Lisicki followed soon after, Julia Goerges joined them, and Angelique Kerber overtook them by reaching the US Open and Wimbledon semifinals. Add to that the experienced Anna-Lena Groenefeld who had moulded herself into a doubles specialist after ploughing a lone singles furrow for Germany for many years, and there was an impressive squad of players.

What’s more, they were all committed to playing for their country. Petkovic is particularly patriotic, having left her home in the Bosnian town of Tuzla when she was a toddler, and come to appreciate what Germany has given her throughout her childhood and early adulthood. Fed Cup is central to her tennis aims, and she finds her enthusiasm matched by her team mates.

Yet all five have suffered a series of injuries.

Petkovic was off the tour for two years with back, ankle and knee injuries, Lisicki had ankle and abdominal problems, and others have also spent a fair amount of time in the treatment room. Add to that a number of away ties, plus the pressure the German players put on themselves to succeed, and it becomes clear why this generation has not got close to fulfilling its Fed Cup potential.

But this year could be different. Petkovic’s win from match point down against Dominika Cibulkova on Saturday was the key to a very difficult away tie. That freed up Kerber to produce some of the best tennis she has played in a long time. The left-handed world No. 9 has talked about wanting to build more aggression into her counterpunching game, and she showed that against both Cibulkova and Daniela Hantuchova. This past weekend could be a turning point for both Petkovic and Kerber on the tour.

Another factor in the team is Barbara Rittner.

The captain is a quiet, understated presence who never lets herself get too carried away. She was a modest achiever on the tour, with a ranking that was normally somewhere between 30 and 100.

She won two singles titles and reached a career-high of 24, and that has given her a knowledge that is allowing her to fashion a team of players who have more natural talent than she had but who have yet to make the most of it. She is clearly both liked and respected by her players.

And while people make a lot of home advantage in Davis and Fed Cup, it isn’t always the easiest thing for team spirit. This tie took place in Bratislava, where all the Slovak players have a base. So they all stayed at home and came together by day, whereas the German team were holed up in a hotel together, which generates a much stronger team ethic. Maybe the run of away ties the Germans have had has been a good thing for strengthening their esprit de corps?

Australia, with choice of ground, await in the next round and is in a similar position to Germany – a former great women’s tennis nation that hasn’t been in a semifinal for 21 years, two more than Germany’s 19-year absence. But while the Aussies are heavily dependent on Sam Stosur, Germany has a squad of five, so the Germans could well start favourites.

2014 as the Fed Cup year for Germany? After this weekend and with the players Rittner has at her disposal and the team spirit she has engendered, you wouldn’t want to count it out.
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Rittner muss gegen Australien auch in den Einzeln abwägen, denn Stosur ist so ein Typ Spieler den einige aus dem Team durchaus schlagen können andere haben es da schwerer. Kerber hat sicher Chancen, H2H ist aber 0-2, Petkovic 0-1 (das war das FC Match).

Bei Görges und Lisicki sieht das besser aus, wobei die beide dafür auch in guter Form sein müssen.
Ja, sehe ich auch so. Mir ging es doch aber um den Vorschlag Görges und ALG zu Hause zu lassen. Dann hätte man kein Erfolg versprechendes Doppel mehr.
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Kerber 0-2 Stosur
Kerber 1-0 Dellacqua

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Wobei man beim H2H von Lisicki berücksichtigen muss das die Niederlagen alle 2008 und 2009 waren, die letzten Matches gewann sie.
Petkovic war bei dem Match nur die Notlösung und kam gerade ohne Matchpraxis von der Verletzungspause zurück.

Ist schon knifflig für Rittner, eine Görges in Form mit den ähnlichen Spielanlagen (Aufschlag, keine Rückhand) würde ich gegen Stosur bevorzugen. Kerber kann sie eh nicht draußen lassen und bei der hat man am ehesten die Sicherheit dass die keinen Unsinn macht gegen die zweite Spielerin.
Das kann bei den anderen leider immer passieren
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