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Old Jan 28th, 2014, 10:48 PM   #1
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Alt Tennis (Recreate history from 1971) - 1971 | Week 2

So ever wanted to recreate history of the WTA from 1971 until the present day.

Now what about the rules that this Alt History.
1. Read what others have wrote about that particaller week, so you can chip in to the history
2. No trolling (E.X: 6-0 6-0 results all the way to the title)
3. A week in this history, is three days in RL (six for GS)

So who would be intersted in recreating history. The start of recreating history is on February 2 (GMT time)

Intersted People
  • HawkAussie (founder)
  • randy72391
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Old Jan 28th, 2014, 10:48 PM   #2
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So this is the schedule for the 1971 Womens Tennis Circuit calendar and we will be starting with the Fed Cup.

Calendar
W1: Federation Cup
W2: San Francisco, Sydney
W3: Long Beach
W4: Milwaukee, Perth
W5: Oklahoma City, Melbourne
W6: Chattanooga
W7: Philadelphia
W8: Fort Lauderdale, Moscow
W9: Boston
W10: Auckland
W11: Sydney
W12: Detroit
W13: New York
W14: San Juan, Durban
W15: St. Petersburg, Monte Carlo, Johannesburg
W16: Las Vegas, Charlotte
W17: San Diego, Catania
W18: Rothman, Buenos Aires
W19: Rome, Tulsa
W20: London
W21: Bournemouth, Hamburg
W22: Paris
W23: Nottingham, Beckenham
W24: London
W25: London
W26: Bastad, Newport, Gstaad, Dublin
W27: Hoylake
W28: Leicester, Kitzbulhel
W29: Houston, Cincinnati
W30: Indianapolis, Hilversum
W31: Chicago
W32: East Orange
W33: Newport
W34: US Open
W35: Louisville
W36: Los Angeles
W37: Phoenix
W38: Edinburgh, Billingham
W39: London
W40: Aberavon, Toquay
W41: London
W42: New York
W43: Christchurch

Grand Slam
Vigina Slims Circuit
ILTF Pepsi Grand Prix
Non-Tour Events
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Old Jan 30th, 2014, 12:09 PM   #4
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It seems an interesting idea, but what should one do exactly?

BTW, thanks for the 1971 calendar. If the current one doesn't make much sense, we should look to that in 1971. First weeks are a mess, going from Australia to USA then back to Australia and Moscow randomly in the middle.
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It seems an interesting idea, but what should one do exactly?

BTW, thanks for the 1971 calendar. If the current one doesn't make much sense, we should look to that in 1971. First weeks are a mess, going from Australia to USA then back to Australia and Moscow randomly in the middle.
So you are intersted right, yeah I know it was a ruff calendar
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The final schedule has now been announced

W1: Federation Cup
W2: San Francisco, Hobart - Results
W3: Long Beach, Sydney
W4: Milwaukee
W5: Oklahoma City, Melbourne
W6: Chattanooga
W7: Philadelphia, Auckland
W8: Fort Lauderdale, Moscow
W9: Boston
W10: Sydney
W11: Detroit
W12: New York
W13: San Juan, Durban
W14: St. Petersburg, Monte Carlo, Johannesburg
W15: Las Vegas, Charlotte
W16: San Diego, Catania
W17: Rothman, Buenos Aires
W18: Rome, Tulsa
W19: London
W20: Bournemouth, Hamburg
W21: Paris
W22: Nottingham, Beckenham
W23: London
W24: London
W25: Bastad, Newport, Gstaad, Dublin
W26: Hoylake
W27: Leicester, Kitzbulhel
W28: Houston, Cincinnati
W29: Indianapolis, Hilversum
W30: Chicago
W31: East Orange
W32: Newport
W33: US Open
W34: Louisville
W35: Phoenix, Los Angeles
W36: Edinburgh, Billingham
W37: London
W38: Aberavon, Toquay
W39: London
W40: New York (YEC)

So are the point systems for the 1971 season
Grand Slam
W: 75
RU: 50
SF: 35
QF: 20
R4: 15
R3: 10
R2: 5
R1: 1

Virgina Slims
W: 50
RU: 40
SF: 25
QF: 10
R2: 5
R1: 1

ILTF Pepsi Grand Prix
W: 50
RU: 40
SF: 25
QF: 10
R2: 5
R1: 1

Non-Tour Events
W: 20
RU: 16
SF: 12
QF: 8
R2: 4
R1: 1
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i'm interested, just not sure how we do this but i love the idea ... Maybe KDK will finally win a major,
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So this is the 1971 Fed Cup draw which if you look at closely is the same draw as RL
Australia (BYE)
Rhodesia vs. Yugoslavia
Netherlands vs. Canada
Japan vs. France
USA vs. Italy
Indonesia vs. South Africa
New Zealand vs. Argentina
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December 29
The 1971 Federation Cup has begun in Perth with all of the big nations scoring wins. The Netherlands, South Africa and Argentina all got through to the QF in easy style after winning 3-0 over Canada, Italy and New Zealand. The biggest shock though was the USA lost to Italy 2-1 with the doubles being the decider and it would favour Italy in a three set affair. Japan scored their first win of the Fed Cup since they started by defeating France 2-1. Rhodesia didn't come to Perth with the result being a w/o win for Yugoslavia.

Australia def Bye
Yugoslavia def Rhodesia w/o
Netherlands def Canada 3-0
Japan def France 2-1
Italy def United States 2-1
South Africa def Indonesia 3-0
Argentina def New Zealand 3-0
United Kingdom def Bye

December 30
The Quarter Finals of the Fed Cup was the first time that we saw Australia competing in the 1971 Federation Cup and they had an easy win over Yugoslavia 3-0. Japan on the other hand struggled against the Netherlands after a long match against France with the final score being 3-0. South Africa continue their run in the Fed Cup by knocking out Italy 2 rubbers to 1. In the final match of the QF, it was the United Kingdom who would take home the win 3-0 over Argentina.

Australia def Yugoslavia 3-0
Netherlands def Japan 3-0
South Africa def Italy 2-1
United Kingdom def Argentina 3-0
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December 31
Semi Final 1: Australia vs. Netherlands
The first semi final was sold out with the tie between the host nation of Australia and the quiet achievers of the Netherlands. Margaret Court and Gerturida Wahlof competed in the opening rubber of the tie with the Australian showing dominace with the final score being 6-2, 6-1.

Evonne Goolagong was next on court against Betty Stöve, the match looking like it wasn't needed with the domiance continuing to shine against the struggle player of Stöve with the tie being wrapped up 2-0 with the doubles still yet to play.

With the tie wrapped up, Court/Goolagong tone their shots down against the other two players. The Dutch knowing that they needed some pride out of this, went 100% and it payed by winning the first set 6-4. The second set wasn't as easy as the first, with the Australians trying to get them back. Netherlands though would finish the rubber of, in postive style to win the second set 8-6

Australia def Netherlands 2-1
Margaret Court (AUS) def Gertruida Walhof (NED) 6-2, 6-1
Evonne Goolagong (AUS) def Betty Stöve (NED) 6-3, 6-3
Gertruida Walhof/Betty Stöve (NED) def Margaret Court/Evonne Goolagong (AUS) 6-4, 8-6

Semi Final 2: South Africa vs. United Kingdom
The second semi final of the Fed Cup got underway with Virginia Wade taking on Laura Rossouw. Something wasn't right though with Virgina Wade as Laura Rossouw playing every shot of Virgina Wade. The score heading in favour of the South African until the second set where Laura Rossouw then went down at 3-3. She did get back out there to finish the match 6-4 7-5 to put South Africa 1-0.

Ann Jones and Brenda Kirk had a tough match in the second rubber with it going to a third. The tightness then really started with the two not given up their serve and before long it was 6-6 all in the third. The two continued, but it was the South African who would crack at 7-7 to end the match for the United Kingdom and to go to a deciding rubber.

Virginia Wade wouldn't play the doubles as the sickness would strike. Winnie Shaw would go and replace her and it help with the pair taking home the victory and the tie for the United Kingdom to go through to the third final with hope of winning the title.

United Kingdom def South Africa 2-1
Laura Rossouw (RSA) def Virginia Wade (GBR) 6-4, 7-5
Ann Jones (GBR) def Brenda Kirk (RSA) 2-6, 6-3, 9-7
Winnie Shaw/Ann Jones def Laura Rossouw/Brenda Kirk 6-3, 6-3
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Final: Australia vs. United Kingdom
The final of the 1971 Federation Cup was what everyone thought would be the final at the start of the tournament. The first rubber was a surprise showing with Winnie Shaw entering the court instead of Ann Jones. The shock in everyone system being helped by the first set win for Shaw. Margaret Court then switch on by dominating the second set and then the match to put the Australians one up in the best of 3 tie.

The second rubber was Goolagong against Wade and it became known what was going to happen with the Australian taking the first set in 24 minutes. The second set was a bit more closer affair between the two, but in the end it was Goolagong who would bring the fifth title for Australia.

The two doubles pairs knowing that the Fed Cup champions was already decided, the two decided to not play the final rubber with the score ending 2-0

Australia def. United Kingdom 2-0
Margaret Court (AUS) def Winnie Shaw (GBR) 2-6, 6-3, 6-1
Evonne Goolagong (AUS) def Virginia Wade (GBR) 6-2, 6-2
Court/Goolagong (AUS) vs. Wade/Shaw (GBR) (not played)
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Hobart
Round 1
The Tasmanian International got underway with most of the Australians getting a bye in the opening round of the competition. But for the other 16 players they had to play in the opening round. Most of the winners from the opening round did take it home in two sets. Their was some three setter affairs but nothing like the match between Hogan and Rossouw which did went the distance of the match. But it was Patti Hogan who would take home the early win to go through to Round 2.

Lesley Hunt (AUS) (BYE)
Lany Kaligis (IDN) def Wendy Turnbull (???) 4-6 6-2 6-3
Winnie Shaw (GBR) def Kazuko Sawamatsu (JPN) 6-2 6-3
Ann Jones (GBR) (BYE)

Marilyn Pryde (NZL) (BYE)
Brenda Kirk (RSA) def Ann Coleman (???) 6-4 6-1
Patty Ann Reese (???) def Kristien Kemmer (USA) 5-7 8-6 6-2
Kerry Harris (AUS) (BYE)

Marilyn Pryde (AUS) (BYE)
Betty Stove (NED) def Jane O'Hara (CAN) 6-0 6-1
Helen Gouraly (???) def Pat Coleman (AUS) 8-6 6-3
Olga Morozova (USR) (BYE)

Kyoko Hatanaka (JPN) (BYE)
Gail Chanfreau (FRA) def Lita Liem (IDN) 6-3 6-3
Patti Hogan (USA) def Laura Rossouw (RSA) 7-9 8-6 7-5
Barbara Hawcroft (AUS) (BYE)

Round 2
In the second round it was a much better affair as most of the Australians then came on to fight it out for the quarter finals. Some of the bye players did take wins but not all of them made it through. Marilyn Pryde was one of the players to fall after losing in straight sets to Brenda Kirk 6-4 6-4. In the end only three of the four Aussies made it through to the final 8 with Marilyn Pryde being the Aussie loser.

Lesley Hunt (AUS) def Lany Kaligis (IDN) 7-5 6-4
Ann Jones (GBR) def Winnie Shaw (GBR) 6-3 2-6 6-2
Brenda Kirk (RSA) def Marilyn Pryde (NZL) 6-4 6-4
Kerry Harris (AUS) def Patty Ann Reese (???) 2-6 6-3 7-5

Betty Stove (NED) def Marilyn Pryde (AUS) 6-2 6-2
Olga Morozova (USR) def Helen Gouraly (???) 8-6 7-5
Gail Chanfreau (FRA) def Kyoko Hatanaka (JPN) 6-4 6-3
Barbara Hawcroft (AUS) def Patti Hogan (USA) 5-7 6-4 6-4
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Week 2 Update #2
The second week has now ended with Stephanie Johnson and Brenda Kirk taking home their first WTC title. In San Francisco, it was the American who would take home the win after it seem liked Françoise Dürr struggled after the three setter that happened in the Semis. While in Hobart, it was another easy win, this time for the South African in an all overseas battle. The final score being 6-3 6-2 in a one hour match.

San Francisco
Round 1
Billie Jean King (USA) def Esme Emanuel (RSA) 6-4 7-5
Francoise Durr (FRA) def Judy Tegart Dalton (AUS) 3-6 6-2 8-6
Kerry Melville (AUS) def Darleen Hard (USA) 6-1 4-6 6-0
Sharon Walsh (USA) def Kristy Pigeon (USA) 9-7 8-6

Nancy Richy (USA) def Valerie Ziegenfuss (USA) 6-3 7-5
Jane Bartkowicz (USA) def Mary Ann Curtis Eisel (USA) 4-6 6-2 6-4
Stephanie Johnson (USA) def Karen Krantzcke (AUS) 6-4 6-1
Rosie Casals (USA) def Denise Carter (USA) 6-3 6-3

Quarter Finals
Francoise Durr (FRA) def Billie Jean King (USA) 6-4 6-2
Sharon Walsh (USA) def Kerry Melville (AUS) 6-3 4-6 6-1

Jane Bartkowicz (USA) def Nancy Richy (USA) 6-0 6-2
Stephanie Johnson (USA) def Rosie Casals (USA) 4-6 6-0 6-3

Semi Finals
Francoise Durr (FRA) def Sharon Walsh (USA) 6-3 5-7 6-2
Stephanie Johnson (USA) def Jane Bartkowicz (USA) 6-1 6-4

Final
Stephanie Johnson (USA) def Francoise Durr (FRA) 6-2 7-5

Hobart
Round 1
Lesley Hunt (AUS) (BYE)
Lany Kaligis (IDN) def Wendy Turnbull (???) 4-6 6-2 6-3
Winnie Shaw (GBR) def Kazuko Sawamatsu (JPN) 6-2 6-3
Ann Jones (GBR) (BYE)

Marilyn Pryde (NZL) (BYE)
Brenda Kirk (RSA) def Ann Coleman (???) 6-4 6-1
Patty Ann Reese (???) def Kristien Kemmer (USA) 5-7 8-6 6-2
Kerry Harris (AUS) (BYE)

Marilyn Pryde (AUS) (BYE)
Betty Stove (NED) def Jane O'Hara (CAN) 6-0 6-1
Helen Gouraly (???) def Pat Coleman (AUS) 8-6 6-3
Olga Morozova (USR) (BYE)

Kyoko Hatanaka (JPN) (BYE)
Gail Chanfreau (FRA) def Lita Liem (IDN) 6-3 6-3
Patti Hogan (USA) def Laura Rossouw (RSA) 7-9 8-6 7-5
Barbara Hawcroft (AUS) (BYE)

Round 2
Lesley Hunt (AUS) def Lany Kaligis (IDN) 7-5 6-4
Ann Jones (GBR) def Winnie Shaw (GBR) 6-3 2-6 6-2
Brenda Kirk (RSA) def Marilyn Pryde (NZL) 6-4 6-4
Kerry Harris (AUS) def Patty Ann Reese (???) 2-6 6-3 7-5

Betty Stove (NED) def Marilyn Pryde (AUS) 6-2 6-2
Olga Morozova (USR) def Helen Gouraly (???) 8-6 7-5
Gail Chanfreau (FRA) def Kyoko Hatanaka (JPN) 6-4 6-3
Barbara Hawcroft (AUS) def Patti Hogan (USA) 5-7 6-4 6-4

Quarter Finals
Lesley Hunt (AUS) def Ann Jones (GBR) 6-3 6-3
Brenda Kirk (RSA) def Kerry Harris (AUS) 8-6 6-4
Olga Morozova (USR) def Betty Stove (NED) 2-6 6-3 6-2
Gail Chanfreau (FRA) def Barbara Hawcroft (AUS) 7-5 6-2

Semi Finals
Brenda Kirk (RSA) def Lesley Hunt (AUS) 7-5 6-8 6-0
Olga Morozova (USR) def Gail Chanfreau (FRA) 5-7 6-1 6-2

Final
Brenda Kirk (RSA) def Olga Morozova (USR) 6-3 6-2
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