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Old Jan 7th, 2014, 03:16 PM   #1
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Tipping Knock Out #4 - Paris (Congratulations to feifei!)

Tipping Knock Out - TKO

Please read the rule post carefully.



2014 WTA Tour - Premier Tournaments

Brisbane - Cooper96 k.o. tenniscreep
Sydney - catgamer k.o. Zenith.
Australian Open - saarsngg k.o. Buitenzorg
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Indian Wells
Miami
Charleston
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Re: Tipping Knock Out #4 - Paris

Overview
- This game is fairly simple if you are familiar with Tennis Tipping and Suicide Tennis.

1. All participants will be entered into an entry list that will be available at least two weeks before the tournament begin. There will be two deadlines for the tournament, with the latter one being late entries.

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First deadline: 3pm CET Sunday before qualifying begins.
LE deadline:    3pm CET the day before qualifying begins.
2. The entry list will be using rankings from 2 weeks ahead. Therefore, there will be no rankings used for Brisbane, Sydney and Australian Open*. BYEs will be given if there are not enough players, but will be drawn randomly for the tournaments where no rankings are used.

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* Note: Australian Open will use rankings from Brisbane if qualifying is not played.
3. The number of participants allowed in the main draw and qualifying draw will follow the actual size of WTA draws (but taking out BYEs). However, if there are too many players in the draw, we will use a revised draw size below for each category.

Code:
Premier & Premier 5: Up to 64S/48Q ( 58 Direct Entries ;  6 Qualifiers)
Premier Mandatory:  Up to 128S/48Q (116 Direct Entries ; 12 Qualifiers)
4. In each tournament participants will be placed in a match per round and tip against each other just like Tennis Tipping. In each match the participants will be picking one player from one match as a main pick to win and another player from another match as a back up pick in case the main pick becomes invalid.

5. Doubles are not considered at this point.
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Re: Tipping Knock Out #4 - Paris

How to play?
- Commit and Submit

1. Commit to each tournament before the deadline. Alternates and lucky losers will only be placed in the draw if no picks were submitted in the first round of each tournament.

2. Check the entry list and the main draw to make sure your name is on there. Draws will not be alternated if mistakes were found after the tournament has begun.

3. Submit 1 pick and 1 back up pick from the order of play to the manager unless the manager plays against you (in this case a back up manager will be designated). Each pick must contain the last name of chosen player and pts of the match. Make sure the tournament name is in the subject of the private message.

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Subject: TKO Brisbane

Pick: Pavlyuchenkova 6-4 6-3
Back Up: Ivanovic 6-4 3-6 6-3
4. Review the picks and the results the manager posted to make sure they are correct. If in doubt, always submit picks for the next round of matches to avoid losing due to errors.

5. Once a player has been used the player cannot be picked again for the latter rounds of the tournament. Back up player will be consider used only if the main pick player is invalid. In the case where both players picked the correct player to win as the first pick and the results were determined by the back up pick, both the main pick and the back up pick will be consider used.

6. Since not all matches will be played on the same day for the same round, you are allowed to make picks for future rounds by submitting picks such as:

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If Pavlyuchenkova def. Ivanovic, then Pavlyuchenkova.
...but you need to identify which ones used as main pick and which ones as back ups. If it's not clearly identified, then the manager will use his/her logic to determine which ones are the main picks).

Rules
- To determine who wins the match...

1. The submitted picks will not count if it's late, a walkover or to the wrong manager. The submitted picks will count if there's a retirement as long as one point is played. If there's a missing pick that cannot be replaced by lucky losers or alternates or if the participant ran out of picks, a losing pick is always better than no picks.

2. If two different players were chosen by each participant:

- The player who wins the match.
- The lower ranked player who wins the match if both players win.

Code:
So if coolfish1103 picked Ivanovic and
      Drake1980    picked Vinci,

...and they both won their respective match,
...coolfish1103 will win cause Ivanovic is ranked lower than Vinci!
3. In case both participants pick the same players who wins:

Code:
If the result is: Ivanovic def. Vinci 6-4 6-3

- Correct Set         Ivanovic 7-6 7-6 > Ivanovic 6-4 3-6 6-3
- Correct Pts & Order Ivanovic 6-4 6-3 > Ivanovic 6-3 6-4
                      Ivanovic 6-4 6-2 > Ivanovic 6-3 6-2
- Correct Pts         Ivanovic 6-4 6-0 > Ivanovic 6-2 6-2
- Closer Pts          Ivanovic 7-5 7-5 > Ivanovic 6-0 6-0
4. Back up players will be compared (return to step 1) if we cannot find a result or both participants picked the same loser...

Code:
- Such as             Ivanovic 7-5 7-5 = Ivanovic 7-5 7-5
                      Ivanovic 6-4 6-4 = Ivanovic 6-4 6-2
                      Vinci 6-4 3-6 6-3 v. Vinci 6-4 3-6 6-2
5. In case both participants pick same players who loses in the primary pick... we go back to the original pick and compare the same losers.

Code:
If the result is: Ivanovic def. Vinci 6-4 6-3

- Incorrect Set        Vinci 6-4 3-6 6-3 > Vinci 6-4 6-3
- Correct Pts & Order  Vinci 6-4 3-6 6-3 > Vinci 6-4 2-6 7-5
                       Vinci 4-6 6-3 6-2 > Vinci 3-6 6-3 6-2
- Correct Pts          Vinci 6-4 4-6 6-3 > Vinci 6-4 2-6 6-3
- Compare back up losers
6. We will compare back up players of the same losers as well if we cannot find differences in the primary pick.

7. If a retirement is involved in the match, the following will happen.

Code:
Result 1: Ivanovic def. Vinci 6-4 3-2 ret.
- We will use Ivanovic def. Vinci 6-4 6-2
- 6-4 6-2 will be deemed as the correct scoreline for sets
- 6-4 6-2 will be deemed as the correct scoreline for points

Result 2: Ivanovic def. Vinci 6-4 6-6 ret.
- We will use Ivanovic def. Vinci 6-4 7-6
- 6-4 7-6 will be deemed as the correct scoreline for sets
- 6-4 7-6 will be deemed as the correct scoreline for points

Result 3: Ivanovic def. Vinci 6-4 3-6 2-1 ret.
- We will use Ivanovic def. Vinci 6-4 3-6 6-1
- 6-4 3-6 6-1 will be deemed as the correct scoreline for sets
- 6-4 3-6 6-1 will be deemed as the correct scoreline for points

Result 4: Ivanovic def. Vinci 2-1 ret.
- We will use Ivanovic def. Vinci 6-1 6-0
- 6-1 6-0 will be deemed as the correct scoreline for sets
- 6-1 6-0 will be deemed as the correct scoreline for points
8. If we still cannot determine a winner at this point, we will use count backs from previous round following the same method (return to step 1). Meaning picks from previous rounds will be compared as if the two players played the match against each other until a winner has been decided (Matches from qualifying will not be used for main draw count backs).

9. If count backs are not possible, then whichever participant ranked higher or committed earlier wins.

10. Lucky losers will be placed based on their rankings (from final round down) and alternates will follow based on committed time. Lucky losers who won a round in the main draw will not receive any points earned from qualifying.
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Re: Tipping Knock Out #4 - Paris

How does the ranking system work?

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Ranking Points Distribution

            WIN  RUP  SF   QF   R16  R32  R64  R128  QFR  Q3   Q2   Q1   

YEC         +450 +360 (RR: 230 for each win ; 70 for each loss)
TOC         +195 + 70 (RR:  60 for each win ; 25 for each loss)

Grand Slam  2000 1300  780  430  240  130   70    1    40   30   20    1
Premier M.  1000  650  390  215  120   65 25/1    1    30   22   15    1
Premier 5    900  585  350  190  105   60    1         30   22   15    1
Premier 700  470  305  185  100   55 30/1    1         25   18   13    1

* Only 1 point for first round losses (including BYE)
Unlike the WTA ranking system, we will only count the best 16 results with no mandatory tournaments required. You will not receive a penalty for not showing up to any tournaments because we only play limited amount of WTA tournaments and you will receive only 1 point for losing in first round of qualifying or main draw as a result.

Qualifications

Year End Championships
- Top 8 players will qualify automatically by the ranking system.
- 2 alternates will be placed automatically in case of withdrawal.

Tournament of Champions
- Top 8 players who has won at least a tournament this year but did not qualify to YEC.
- Additional players will be filled by the order of ranking points in case there are less winners.
- 2 alternates will be placed automatically in case of withdrawal.
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Re: Tipping Knock Out #4 - Paris

Schedule & Draw Size

Code:
Tentative schedule for 32S/32Q Draw

WTA Q1 : Jan. 26, Qualifying Round 1
WTA Q2 : Jan. 27, Qualifying Round 2
WTA QFR: Jan. 28, Qualifying Final Round

WTA R32: Jan. 29, Main Draw Rounds 32
WTA R16: Jan. 30, Main Draw Rounds 16
WTA  QF: Jan. 31, Main Draw Quarterfinals
WTA  SF: Feb.  1, Main Draw Semifinals
WTA   F: FeB.  2, Main Draw Final         (Yes, 1 match will determine your fate)

The schedule will be adjusted in the case of two-day rounds, larger draw or delays.
Code:
Regular Draw (follow Brisbane)
- 32 Main Draw  (28 Direct Entries)
- 32 Qualifying ( 4 Qualifications)

Pacted Draw
- Up to 64 Main Draw  (Up to 52 Direct Entries)
- Up to 48 Qualifying (Up to 12 Qualifications)

Draw will be extended in the following fashion...

32S/32Q > 32S/48Q > 64S/32Q > 64S/48Q
Ranking Points

Code:
Premier 700

WIN  470
RUP  305
 SF  185
 QF  100
R16   55
R32 30/1
R64    1
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QFR   25
QR3   18
QR2   13
QR1    1
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Re: Tipping Knock Out #4 - Paris

Entry List

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POS  Participants

001  Cooper96       1
002  Zenith.        3
003  tenniscreep    3
004  HawkAussie     5
005  Buitenzorg     5
006  Chilenaitor   14
007  jankimfan     15
008  Szymon        17
009  coolfish1103  17
010  jezhead       NR
011  saarsngg      11 LE
012  catgamer       2 LE
013  goOudinUSA     7 LE
014  Proflyer98    NR LE
015  Davidspell    NR LE
016  Drake1980      7 LE
017  mariusz_pol    7 LE
018  randy72391    NR LE
019  MichaelN      NR LE
020  databol       NR ALT
021
022
023
024
025
026
027
028
First entry deadline: 3pm CST the Sunday (January 19) before qualifying begins
Final entry deadline: 3pm CST the day (January 24) before qualifying begins
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Main Draw

Final

Code:
[A] feifei      v.     saarsngg
Semifinal

Code:
    MichaelN    v. [A] feifei
    mariusz_pol v.     saarsngg
Quarterfinal

Code:
    MichaelN    v.     Davidspell
    randy72391  v. [A] feifei
    mariusz_pol v. [3] Zenith.
[7] goOudinUSA  v.     saarsngg
Round 16

Code:
[1] Cooper96    v.     MichaelN
    Davidspell  v. [6] Buitenzorg
[4] tenniscreep v.     randy72391
    Chilenaitor v. [A] feifei

[8] Drake1980   v.     mariusz_pol
    Szymon      v. [3] Zenith.
[7] goOudinUSA  v.     jankimfan   
    saarsngg    v. [2] catgamer
Round 32

Code:
[1] Cooper96    v.     BYE
    jezhead     v.     MichaelN
    Davidspell  v.     Proflyer98
    BYE         v. [6] Buitenzorg

[4] tenniscreep v.     BYE
    randy72391  v.     coolfish1103
    Chilenaitor v.     BYE
    BYE         v. [5] HawkAussie

[8] Drake1980   v.     BYE
    BYE         v.     mariusz_pol
    Szymon      v.     BYE 
    BYE         v. [3] Zenith.

[7] goOudinUSA  v.     BYE
    BYE         v.     jankimfan   
    saarsngg    v.     BYE
    BYE         v. [2] catgamer
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Re: Tipping Knock Out #4 - Paris

Order of Play Saturday
- This will count for the finals.

Sharapova v. Pavlyuchenkova
Errani v. Cornet

Send your Primary and Back Up picks to coolfish1103. Deadline is at 15:30 local time.

Order of Play for Friday
- Remember you cannot use players already chosen for previous rounds!

Cornet/Zahlavova Strycova v. Petkovic
Sharapova v. Flipkens
Kerber v. Pavlyuchenkova
Svitolina v. Errani

Please send your Primary and Back up picks with PTS to coolfish1103. Deadline is at 11:00 local time.

Order of Play for Thursday
- Send your picks even if you don't know the results

Svitolina v. Voskoboeva
Meusburger v. Flipkens
Mladenovic v. Petkovic
Knapp v. Errani
Cornet v. Kvitova

Send your Primary and Back Up Picks to coolfish1103 by 11:00 local time.

Order of Play for Wednesday

Voegele v. Voskoboeva
Vinci v. Svitolina
Barthel v. Flipkens
Pavlyuchenkova v. Suarez Navarro
Halep v. Mladenovic
Kerber v. Zakopalova
Sharapova v. Hantuchova

Please send your Primary and Back up picks with PTS to coolfish1103. Deadline is at 11:00 local time.

Order of Play for Tuesday

Rybarikova v. Cornet
Petkovic v. Jovanovski
Knapp v. Arruabarena
Meusburger v. Friedsam
Erakovic v. Hantuchova
Larsson v. Suarez Navarro

Please send your Primary and Back Up Picks with PTS to coolfish1103 except for coolfish1103 and randy72391 to jankimfan.

Deadline is at 11:00 local time.
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Re: Tipping Knock Out #4 - Paris

Daily Picks

Final

[ALT] feifei v saarsngg - errani64 75 v Errani 64 62

Semifinal

MichaelN v [ALT] feifei - Cornet 6-4, 6-4 v cornet 61 26 63
mariusz_pol v saarsngg - No pick v Petkovic 75 63

Quarterfinal

MichaelN v Davidspell - Svitolina 6-3, 6-4 v Flipkens 6-3 6-2
randy72391 v [ALT] feifei - No Pick v Meusburger 61 26 63
mariusz_pol v [3] Zenith. - Svitolina 26 75 62 v Kvitova 3-6, 6-0, 7-5 Voskoboeva 6-4, 5-7, 6-3
[7] goOudinUSA v saarsngg - Voskoboeva 64 75 v Svitolina 64 36 75

Round 16

[1] Cooper96 v MichaelN - Voegele 75 26 63 v Halep 6-3, 6-2
[1] Cooper96 v MichaelN - Barthel 26 64 62 v Kerber 6-4, 6-3
Davidspell v [6] Buitenzorg - Halep 6-3 6-2 v Voegele 76 63
Davidspell v [6] Buitenzorg - Voegele 6-0 6-1 v Suarez Navarro 75 63
CB: Davidspell v [6] Buitenzorg - Hantuchova 6-3 6-4 v No Pick
[4] tenniscreep v randy72391 - Voegele 76 64 v Voegele 6-4 6-3
[4] tenniscreep v randy72391 - Barthel 75 63 v Barthel 64 63
CB: [4] tenniscreep v randy72391 - No Pick v Knapp 64 63
Chilenaitor v [ALT] feifei - Vinci v Svitolina 6463

[8] Drake1980 v mariusz_pol - No Pick v Kerber 76 62
Szymon v [3] Zenith. - Barthel 6-3 4-6 6-2 v Halep 6-4, 6-2
Szymon v [3] Zenith. - Suarez Navarro 7-5 6-4 v Pavlyuchenkova 4-6, 6-3, 6-4
[7] goOudinUSA v jankimfan - Vinci 64 64 v Voegele 7-5, 7-5
[7] goOudinUSA v jankimfan - Flipkens 75 62 v Barthel 6-2, 6-3
saarsngg v [2] catgamer - Voegele 75 64 v Voegele 64 63
saarsngg v [2] catgamer - Pavlyuchenkova 75 62 v Barthel 64 63

No pick from HawkAussie and Drake1980, feifei sent as an ALT and replaces HawkAussie cause mariusz_pol is ranked higher.

Round 32

jezhead v MichaelN - No pick v Petkovic 6-3, 6-2
Davidspell v Proflyer98 - Hantuchova 6-3 6-4 v No pick
randy72391 v coolfish1103 - Knapp: 64 63 v Meusburger 6-4 7-5
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Ranking after Sydney

Code:
Rank	P Rank	Participants		Points		Brisban	Sydney
							
1	1	Cooper96		471		470	1
2	NR	catgamer		470		0	470
3	2	tenniscreep		306		305	1
3	11	Zenith.  		306		1	305
5	5	HawkAussie		200		100	100
5	5	Buitenzorg		200		100	100
7	3	Drake1980		181		180	1
7	3	feifei   		181		180	1
7	15	mariusz_pol		181		1	180
7	16	goOudinUSA		181		1	180
11	14	saarsngg		101		1	100
12	5	JustPetko		100		100	0
12	5	kondrashov		100		100	0
14	18	Chilenaitor		100		0	100
15	9	jankimfan		56		55	1
16	9	Med.Nico		55		55	0
17	12	coolfish1103		2		1	1
17	12	Szymon   		2		1	1
19	17	F4CU    	    	0		0	0
19	19	seagulluk		0		0	0
19	19	Nightcrawl3r		0		0	0
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