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Old Feb 13th, 2014, 04:24 AM   #16
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Re: Week 1 Ranking New

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Is there a mistake in the rankings? How did UVA's Danielle Collins fall from #28 to #53? She lost to the higher seed #23 Cercone and beat an unranked TAMU player. Makes no sense at all.

http://www.itatennis.com/AwardsAndRa..._-_Feb__11.htm

Jumps in Rankings:

1. (10) Duke +9
3. (5) UCLA +2
4. (8) Cal +4
7. (16) Northwestern +9
10. (14) UVA +4
12. (13) Clemson +1
18. (19) Baylor +1
20. (21) Auburn +1

Not sure if Duke should be ranked that highly, but they won the championships after all and now behind Stanford.

Movers in the top 20:

1. (2) Loeb (UNC) +1
4. (11) Elbaba (UVA) +7
5. (6) Ahn (STAN) +1
6. (10) Garcia (UGA) +4
11. (17) Janowicz (UF) +6
12. (21) Bektas (UM) +9
14. (18) Morgan (UF)
17. (25) Kowase (UGA) +8
18. (20) Yurovsky (UM) +2
20. (45) Goldfeld (DUKE) +25 - um what?
I guess that win over Chanelle helped.
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Old Feb 13th, 2014, 04:27 AM   #17
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Re: Week 1 Ranking New

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Originally Posted by knoxt View Post
Is there a mistake in the rankings? How did UVA's Danielle Collins fall from #28 to #53? She lost to the higher seed #23 Cercone and beat an unranked TAMU player. Makes no sense at all.

http://www.itatennis.com/AwardsAndRa..._-_Feb__11.htm

Jumps in Rankings:

1. (10) Duke +9
3. (5) UCLA +2
4. (8) Cal +4
7. (16) Northwestern +9
10. (14) UVA +4
12. (13) Clemson +1
18. (19) Baylor +1
20. (21) Auburn +1

Not sure if Duke should be ranked that highly, but they won the championships after all and now behind Stanford.

Movers in the top 20:

1. (2) Loeb (UNC) +1
4. (11) Elbaba (UVA) +7
5. (6) Ahn (STAN) +1
6. (10) Garcia (UGA) +4
11. (17) Janowicz (UF) +6
12. (21) Bektas (UM) +9
14. (18) Morgan (UF)
17. (25) Kowase (UGA) +8
18. (20) Yurovsky (UM) +2
20. (45) Goldfeld (DUKE) +25 - um what?

Goldfeld lost to unranked Price of UNC although she did win against then #9 van Nguyen. But a bad loss doesn't deserve a 25-spot jump in the rankings. Confused...
like someone else said these rankings are a mess. it really doesn't say anything in the start of the season.
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Old Feb 15th, 2014, 04:23 AM   #18
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Vogasari, Kordolaimi, and Houston all entered the rankings this week
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Old Feb 18th, 2014, 08:54 PM   #19
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Re: Week 1 Ranking New

New rankings are out and there are a few changes in the top 20. UCLA was idle yet still moved up over Stanford.

Women's Team Rankings
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NCAA Division I Tennis
February 18, 2014


Rank Team Previous Rank
1 Duke University 1
2 UCLA 3
3 Stanford 2
4 California 4
5 University of Florida 5
6 North Carolina 6
7 University of Georgia 8
8 Northwestern University 7
9 University of Southern California 9
10 Texas A&M University 11
11 Clemson University 12
12 Vanderbilt University 15
13 University of Virginia 10
14 University of Alabama 16
15 Baylor University 18
16 University of Michigan 13
17 University of Miami, Florida 14
18 University of Texas at Austin 17
19 Auburn University 20
20 University of Oklahoma 24
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Old Feb 18th, 2014, 10:12 PM   #20
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Re: Week 1 Ranking New

Current ranks are coaches popularity poll right now. Pretty sure some of us on the forum spend more time looking/comparing results than those very few coaches.

There are a number of movements that make little sense throughout the thing.
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Old Feb 18th, 2014, 11:58 PM   #21
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Re: Week 1 Ranking New

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Current ranks are coaches popularity poll right now. Pretty sure some of us on the forum spend more time looking/comparing results than those very few coaches.

There are a number of movements that make little sense throughout the thing.
Why did I always think it was a computerized system? Oops.
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Old Feb 19th, 2014, 12:33 AM   #22
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Why did I always think it was a computerized system? Oops.
I thought it starts out with coaches, which I like, but later it converts to a computerized system, at least it use to, not sure if that will continue.

It will be interesting that #3 Stanford plays #4 Florida this weekend and #5 California the following weekend.

That should stir-up the rankings a bit when it is all said and done.
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Old Feb 19th, 2014, 02:16 AM   #23
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Re: Week 1 Ranking New

The team rankings switch over to the computer starting next week.
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Old Feb 19th, 2014, 06:03 AM   #24
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New rankings are out and there are a few changes in the top 20. UCLA was idle yet still moved up over Stanford.
Stanford only played 1 match, shutting out Santa Clara 7-0 and given that UCLA was idle, I guess the move up was more of a correction to move UCLA up, as they did with Duke.
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Re: Week 1 Ranking New

first of the computer rankings are out, the number after the school name is the previous ranking:
TEAM

Rank Average Team Previous Week
1 81.40 Duke University 1
2 77.80 UCLA 2
3 68.41 University of Virginia 13
4 67.30 Stanford 3
5 65.77 University of Florida 5
6 62.62 University of Southern California 9
7 62.21 Northwestern University 8
8 60.27 Vanderbilt University 12
9 58.84 Texas A&M University 10
10 57.33 University of Alabama 14
11 56.74 North Carolina 6
12 56.21 University of Georgia 7
13 52.61 University of Michigan 16
14 51.82 California 4
15 46.77 Clemson University 11
16 44.63 University of Oklahoma 20
17 38.38 University of Tulsa 23
18 36.83 Baylor University 15
19 36.58 Georgia Tech 25
20 36.09 University of Miami (Florida) 17
21 33.73 Rice University 24
22 32.13 Pepperdine 26
23 31.84 Auburn University 19
24 25.60 University of Washington 40
25 24.07 University of Notre Dame 22

the singles & doubles:
http://www.itatennis.com/AwardsAndRa...s_Rankings.htm
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Old Feb 25th, 2014, 08:52 PM   #26
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Re: Week 1 Ranking New

LOL at Georgia down at #12 after beating Georgia Tech 7-0. These rankings are still a joke.
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Re: Week 1 Ranking New

Interesting...
Stanford beats Florida and drops for 3 to 4, while Florida remains at 5


University of Houston jumped from 64 to 30 (wonder if they were ever this high)
Harvard jumped from 68 to 35
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Re: Week 1 Ranking New

Cal loses to two top 10 teams and drops out of the top 10.

Duke loses to UVA but still remains #1. I guess winning indoors always keeps you at the top of the rankings for most of the season.
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Old Feb 25th, 2014, 10:44 PM   #29
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Re: Week 1 Ranking New

As usual the first computer rankings are a mess too... huge statistical swings.

A) The sampling is still really small. LMU, not to pick on them, has one ranked win over what was considered a top 50, and jumps in mid-60's Lots of other similar examples. There are some other odd movements too.

B) The first computer poll has to work off the already flawed small coach committee popularity poll. So the original baseline for valuing wins and losses is that flawed poll. Maybe if they ran the thing 2 or 3 times to shake out the first flaw it might help? I know they do that now right before NCAA's to make sure all results are fairly weighted.

C) Doubles is even a bigger mess. How can a pair that has played just four matches (fall and spring) together and are 2-2 but have a top 20 'experimental 6 game' win suddenly be ranked. Off four total results? Silly

Good news is this will eventually sort itself in about 2 more weeks and become a bit more realistic. But the original jumps up and down really do lose credibility for the sport.

My thoughts.
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Re: Week 1 Ranking New

do you really think the mess in doubles will right itself? You look at many of these #2 teams and wonder how playing there in the spring can result in such high rankings.
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