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View Poll Results: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

Win is a win, never a fluke. 65 43.33%
Only 1 Slam can be fluke 47 31.33%
2 Slams 8 5.33%
3 Slams 2 1.33%
4 Slams, including Career Grand Fluke 23 15.33%
7 Slams 0 0%
17 Slams 5 3.33%
22 Slams 2 1.33%
24 Fluke Slams , a WR of flukes 5 3.33%
All Slams are Fluke,because Miami is a real Slam 8 5.33%
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 07:38 PM   #31
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

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Depends on the situation but if you're not defending the slams you won, it does ask questions about how you won it.

All the greats of the game win a slam and defend their slams multiple times from Serena, Seles, Graf, Evert, Navratilova just from the recent ones.

The very idea about title defense is central to tennis from the days of the challenge round.
In the challenge round era the winner of a title only had to play one match to keep that title!
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 07:43 PM   #32
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

However many La Ni won.
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 07:46 PM   #33
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Why not? Let's say Sharapova breaks her leg after leading Errani 6-3 5-2 in the RG final, and she got there by better players' tank-jobs That would totally be a fluke
That would be more than a fluke/travesty, cuz her legs are all she has going for her outside of tennis.
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 07:50 PM   #34
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ahhh i see where youre coming from because sharapova never defended her slams and everything, well my favorite defended. ha! in your face!

(call her a one surface wonder)
My favourite?

These are the players who have defended.

Court
Graf
Wills
Evert
Navratilova
Serena Williams
Venus Williams
King
Seles
Connolly
Lenglen
Henin
Chambers
Mallory
Goolagong
Bueno

Not all of them are my favourites but they are the absolute who's who of women's tennis being the Top 16 that's won at least 7 majors.


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In the challenge round era the winner of a title only had to play one match to keep that title!
Yeah showing the significance show to a champion and their ability to defend and a lot of them defended because they were a cut above the rest of the competition like Renshaw, Dod, Sterry, Chambers.
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 07:55 PM   #35
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Bartoli's Wimbledon was a fluke, since she would have lost to half of the players in the draw.
IKR? Should've been Mirjana she beat her in straights at Wimbledon last year
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 07:58 PM   #36
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Anything that MUG Maria Sharapova does is fluke.

Her career slam is the biggest fluke and tennis and everyone knows it.

She's been exposed by the experts on this board.

She hasn't even defended a slam.
Preach!!! Azarenka defending her Slam puts her a in a league above her!!!
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 08:12 PM   #37
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

A win is a win I guess
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 09:02 PM   #38
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

I think you need to win more than one to show you really deserve it I don't know that's just me :L
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 09:06 PM   #39
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

I voted:

Win is a win, never a fluke
17 slams

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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 09:16 PM   #40
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

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I see so often on this board that some Slam winners are called Fluke winners (like Bartoli this year)

So the question is: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke". Is it enough to win second Slam to confirm legitimacy of joining Grand Slam winners' club?
Also, what are the reasons, criteria for calling Slam winner -"Fluke" winner.
Which Slam wins do you consider "Fluke" and why?
As long as you have another appearance in a slam final, or a couple semis, it's hard to argue a win was undeserved, which is what a term like 'fluke' implies. Schiavone and Bartoli both had ended up losing in the finals, as well as winning their particular slams. And in Bartoli's case, what all the players commenting on her win talked about how hard she works.

When you put the work in, year after year, to the level that your fellow player players find your work ethic exceptional, and then you finally reap the benefits, words like 'just reward' and 'wel deserved' are far more applicable than 'fluke'.
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 09:26 PM   #41
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Preach!!! Azarenka defending her Slam puts her a in a league above her!!!
Pretty sure Satan lives underground...
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 09:32 PM   #42
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

I chose 17
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Absolute. Bullshit.
absolutely agree, sharapova is my least favourite top player (apologies), but the notion anyone's slams need to be vindicated by winning the following year is absurd

players like majoli and myskina's resume's are built around their slam triumphs and they never even reached another semi, doesn't diminish the fact that for those 2 weeks when every fit and able player in the world was striving to become champion, they were the ones to lift the cup.

the format of major tennis championships doesn't lend itself to creating flukes anyway, as has been pointed out
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 11:09 PM   #44
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

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However many La Ni won.
Well better than some people who can't win any and never will.
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

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Preach!!! Azarenka defending her Slam puts her a in a league above her!!!
Only at the AO...
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