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View Poll Results: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

Win is a win, never a fluke. 65 43.33%
Only 1 Slam can be fluke 47 31.33%
2 Slams 8 5.33%
3 Slams 2 1.33%
4 Slams, including Career Grand Fluke 23 15.33%
7 Slams 0 0%
17 Slams 5 3.33%
22 Slams 2 1.33%
24 Fluke Slams , a WR of flukes 5 3.33%
All Slams are Fluke,because Miami is a real Slam 8 5.33%
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 07:03 PM   #16
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

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Bartoli's Wimbledon was a fluke, since she would have lost to half of the players in the draw.


To win a slam can never be considered a fluke. To do so a player has to win 7 matches - nothing flukey about that. Yes, you might get lucky with the draw but a player who wins a slam is better that fortnight than a number 1 seed who goes out in the early stages. Bartoli raised her game, the others didn't, therefore she deserved it. Same goes for any other Slam winner.
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 07:08 PM   #17
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Bartoli made the final before. She was lucky with her draw but I wouldn't call it a fluke.


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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

The first option, obviously. A win is a win. There is no such thing as a 'fluke Slam'.


Schiavone? Lol no. She reached the final the next year. So, it wasn't a fluke.
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 07:14 PM   #19
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

A win is a win, even though things might happen during a finals slam match. I will say that the only way I'd even consider putting an asterisk near a slam finals win by one opponent over another is IF something really "crazy" happened during a match and a player who was leading gets injured and has to stop playing on the spot. I don't remember it ever happening to be honest, but that's the only scenario I'd even consider putting an asterisk near a winners slam win over another player, and even THEN it's no ones fault that a "crazy" injury happened like that to a player leading during a finals slam match.
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 07:14 PM   #20
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

Tennis is a game where you have to demonstrate clear superiority over your opponent in order to win (winning games by 2 clear points & winning sets by 2 clear games (except when decided by a tiebreak)). So, I think the concept of doing that 7 times in a row and being called a fluke is crazy.
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

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Nothing can be considered as a "fluke" in tennis, especially not Grand Slam title.
Your opponent is suffering bad stomach pains and cant make it through the match
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 07:24 PM   #22
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

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Anything that MUG Maria Sharapova does is fluke.

Her career slam is the biggest fluke and tennis and everyone knows it.

She's been exposed by the experts on this board.

She hasn't even defended a slam.
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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 07:27 PM   #23
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

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Your opponent is suffering bad stomach pains and cant make it through the match
Then you stood up better physically than your opponent and deserved to win the match. Yes, that may be a bit lucky but it's not flukey that a player wins a Slam because it happened once in 7 matches.

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Old Dec 11th, 2013, 07:32 PM   #24
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

Marion reached a Wimbledon final before and lets not forget she beat Serena at Wimbledon as well. Marion earned that slam title.
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

During that particular fortnight, Marion deserved to win Wimbledon. Serena came in as the hot favourite but was beaten by Lisicki. However, Marion could beat Lisicki that fortnight. Did Lisicki deserve to win the title instead? No, because she played an absolute shocker in the final (and got beaten!) Who played the best at the important moments during Wimby 2013? Marion did, hence she deserved it, hence it was no fluke..
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

Fluke is a word invented to help people to deal with unexpected wins.
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

Depends on the situation but if you're not defending the slams you won, it does ask questions about how you won it.

All the greats of the game win a slam and defend their slams multiple times from Serena, Seles, Graf, Evert, Navratilova just from the recent ones.

The very idea about title defense is central to tennis from the days of the challenge round.
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Re: How many Slams won by one player can be called "Fluke"

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Depends on the situation but if you're not defending the slams you won, it does ask questions about how you won it.

All the greats of the game win a slam and defend their slams multiple times from Serena, Seles, Graf, Evert, Navratilova just from the recent ones.

The very idea about title defense is central to tennis from the days of the challenge round.
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Absolute. Bullshit.
ahhh i see where youre coming from because sharapova never defended her slams and everything, well my favorite defended. ha! in your face!

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ahhh i see where youre coming from because sharapova never defended her slams and everything, well my favorite defended. ha! in your face!

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