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Old Jul 16th, 2013, 03:38 PM   #226
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I don't think bored is the correct word to use. But yeah, it seems pretty likely that they both came to an agreement that there wasn't too much more Thomas could offer. He seems to be a brilliant tennis analyst and technical coach - these aspects will be of massive benefit (in dire need) to Caroline - much more so than Masha at this point. But I guess it's all just speculation at this point.

I think a Caro/Masha match will be interesting considering Thomas knows every little in-and-out of Maria's game A bit unnerving But I wish him the best anyway because he did tremendous things with restructuring her forehand for slower surfaces...it really was a brilliant example of coaching with purpose.
Yeah, it will be weird to see him not in her box rooting for her opponent....
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Old Jul 16th, 2013, 03:48 PM   #227
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Re: Maria and Thomas go seperate ways

I ended up reading Bodo's article on Maria and Connors: it's a mess as I thought.
Basically he thinks that he could only teach her how to beat Serena and nothing more
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Old Jul 16th, 2013, 03:49 PM   #228
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According to Russian press Wozn denied this collobaration....
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Old Jul 16th, 2013, 03:49 PM   #229
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Re: Maria and Thomas go seperate ways

Mexicola, don't you know that "he cannot travel anymore" is just a good old PR trick?? Although I believed that he had some personal things and decided for real not to travel, because they were such a good team... And he really liked her and rooted for her. But I think the chemistry between Thomas and Masha went disappearing around RG - when he criticized her form... So I incline to the option of Maria dumping him.
And I agree that the one who risks here - is Maria not Jimmy...
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Old Jul 16th, 2013, 03:59 PM   #230
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Mexicola, don't you know that "he cannot travel anymore" is just a good old PR trick?? Although I believed that he had some personal things and decided for real not to travel, because they were such a good team... And he really liked her and rooted for her. But I think the chemistry between Thomas and Masha went disappearing around RG - when he criticized her form... So I incline to the option of Maria dumping him.
I think it was planned much earlier before RG and yeah I more tend to think that it was Maria's move. I am sure Thomas would never go b/c she payed him a lot and yeah he really liked her.
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Mexicola, don't you know that "he cannot travel anymore" is just a good old PR trick?? Although I believed that he had some personal things and decided for real not to travel, because they were such a good team... And he really liked her and rooted for her. But I think the chemistry between Thomas and Masha went disappearing around RG - when he criticized her form... So I incline to the option of Maria dumping him.
And I agree that the one who risks here - is Maria not Jimmy...
As far as the who dumped whom thing goes, I think we'll have to wait to see if this Woz/Thomas thing is confirmed or not before having a better idea.

If Thomas is her new coach, then someone ends up looking really embarrassed here, after the comment about not wanting to travel. Did Maria dump him, offering up the travel excuse or did Thomas dump Maria, lying about not wanting to travel, and then jumping to Caroline a few days later?

If the Woz/Thomas thing is false, then we're back to seeing the Maria/Thomas split as more amicable and it's not much of a story.
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Yeah so apparently he isn't coaching Caro...awks
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Re: Maria and Thomas go seperate ways

Both Matt Cronin and Mark Nixon confirmed that Thomas did tell Maria he wanted to spend more time with his family. So it seems that Masha was cheated...
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Re: Maria and Thomas go seperate ways

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@TennisReporters: Official from @CaroWozniacki camp: No discussion at all about bringing in new coach now OR in future. Piotr changed his mind?

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Re: Maria and Thomas go seperate ways

Another tennis media denied the Woz/Hoggy rumour:

Thomas Hogstedt Won’t Be Coaching Wozniacki Any Time Soon

http://www.10sballs.com/2013/07/16/t...any-time-soon/
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@TennisReporters What do you think about the rumor that Högstedt is her new coach? (According to Danish media)

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@marialhenriksen I have heard no and would be surprised if true given he really did tell Maria he wanted time with his family
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Would it really be that much of a risk for Connors at this point in his career? At his age and little success and experience as a coach, it's not like tennis players were banging down his door asking him to coach. He could view this as his last great chance to get into the spotlight and be a part of tennis one last time, coaching one of the biggest stars ever. What reputation does he have? No matter what happens with Maria, he'll still be considered an all-time great player. And he never brought success to Roddick, so it's not like his coaching prowess is revered and he's putting it on the line handling a female player.

I don't think he has anything to lose at all here. Whether he lasts 6 months, a year, or whatever, I think he's going to enjoy being relevant again. It won't dent his family life much, I don't think. Maria is the one with everything at stake in this partnership.
That's exactly the point: the fact he couldn't coach Roddick to success makes the stakes even higher for him this time. That took some of the luster off Connors and arguably harmed his "credibility" in the tennis world. And his credibility will take an even bigger hit if he fails again, and with a woman to boot (we all know it's the horrible reality that a great male athlete coaching a woman has a big stigma). It's a lot safer for him at this point in his career to just stay safely in retirement, as that way his abilities are never questioned and people just remember him for the great player he was; by going into coaching, he has the chance of getting a big reward (another taste of glory by p.roxy, like Lendl's getting, if he can coach Maria to more Slam titles) but also comes with the risk of being judged as a failure if he can't do it.
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Re: Maria and Thomas go seperate ways

And how do we know he really said that to Maria?? That trick "of not travelling" is often pulled by so many coaches and players and PRs... Cahill and Roeger, Scott Byrnes and Ana and so on...
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Re: Maria and Thomas go seperate ways

so he isnt picked by Piotr afterall? Martha's detractors were so pumped already...


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And I agree that the one who risks here - is Maria not Jimmy...
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And how do we know he really said that to Maria?? That trick "of not travelling" is often pulled by so many coaches and players and PRs... Cahill and Roeger, Scott Byrnes and Ana and so on...
Agreed. We'll never truly know who "dumped" who and what happened.
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