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Old Jun 20th, 2013, 05:47 PM   #16
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Re: Paula Deen: I Used the N-Word, but Don't Condone Racism

Anybody surprised? Shes a southern white woman, come on now.
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I guess that makes sense but, of course, people focus on the worst aspect of all - slavery.

Still, I think Irish people were some of the first slaves brought to the Americas. I can't remember whether or not they were brought to the States or just the Caribbean but apparently a significant number of Central Americans have at least some Irish blood in them and a few family names are Hispanisized (is there an actual word for this or can I use my made up one) Irish names - Obregon = O Brien, apparently!

Anyway, whether Paula D came from one of those poor exploited family or a family of rich, landowning oppressors, she seems like quite the relic!
A lot of Irish also went to Central America (as well as German Catholics) during the 19th Century, feeling they would be more comfortable in those countries than in the often militantly Protestant U.S.

The influence of these settlers lives on not only in names, but also in the region's rich beer and ale brewing tradition, and both mariachi and Tejano music and dance, with draw heavily on German and Irish music and dance styles, with of course, Spanish and Mesoamerican elements.

The Germans and Irish also heavily influenced Tex-Mex cuisine, which is much heavier than a lot of Mexican cuisine because of the Irish/German influence.

But I digress.
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Old Jun 20th, 2013, 10:11 PM   #18
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^ Interesting though!

I'm now imagining a modern fusion of Irish food and Tex-Mex and I'm confused
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I had never heard of this woman before. Why are her teeth so white? Are they dentures?
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Re: Paula Deen: I Used the N-Word, but Don't Condone Racism

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My Cajun friends call each other "coonass" all the time, but it's strictly among themselves. And a couple of Jewish friends are the best source for horribly tasteless Jewish jokes I know.

For some reason, though, a certain segment of the population gets all upset about the fact blacks do this, even though, again, almost all US ethnic groups do it, or have done so in the past. It's actually a way of "owning" the insult to make it less painful.

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I'm much more up on my American pop-culture than most, quite a lot more compared to other Irish people and the few British, Australia and Kiwi friends I have and although I had heard of her (referenced in movies, sitcoms etc.) and knew she was involved in cooking/cuisine, I would definitely say she's in no way an international celebrity.
I only know her through appearing on Kathy Griffin's reality show. I guess Canadians would know Paula so it's international, kinda like celebs who are only famous in Ireland and the UK
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Paula Deen Racist Comments, Use Of N-Word Allegedly Caught On Video [UPDATED]

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Posted: 06/19/2013 3:23 pm EDT | Updated: 06/20/2013 8:07 am EDT




Paula Deen is no stranger to controversy, but new allegations of racism leveled against the Southern chef may shock even those who have followed her troubles most closely.

The National Enquirer claims to have acquired a video of a deposition in which Deen admits to using the N-word and making racist and anti-semitic jokes. She also allegedly describes her interest in hiring black waiters dressed to look like "slaves" at a wedding.

The deposition, which was reportedly held on May 17, took place as part of a court case brought forth by former Paula Deen Enterprises employee Lisa Jackson against Deen and her brother, Earl “Bubba” Hiers. Jackson alleges several instances of sexual and racial workplace discrimination.

Neither the video of the deposition or The National Enquirer's story are available on the web, but Radar Online posted some of the story's most disturbing highlights:
[W]hen asked if she wanted black men to play the role of slaves at a wedding she explained she got the idea from a restaurant her husband and her had dined at saying, “The whole entire waiter staff was middle-aged black men, and they had on beautiful white jackets with a black bow tie. “I mean, it was really impressive. That restaurant represented a certain era in America…after the Civil War, during the Civil War, before the Civil War…It was not only black men, it was black women…I would say they were slaves.”
While The National Enquirer has a checkered history when it comes to printing the truth, it's worth noting that the tabloid was first to break the story that Deen suffered from type II diabetes, and its early reporting on the John Edwards affair turned the story into a national scandal.

A representative for Deen strongly refutes The National Enquirer's allegations, telling Entertainment Tonight that, “Contrary to media reports, Ms. Deen does not condone or find the use of racial epithets acceptable. She is looking forward to her day in court.”

We'll be following this story closely to see if these allegations pan out. If they do, we imagine Paula Deen will have some explaining to do.

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The Huffington Post has obtained a transcript of the deposition in question. The quotes below are pulled directly from it.

On using the N-word:
Lawyer: Have you ever used the N-word yourself?
Deen: Yes, of course. Lawyer: Okay. In what context?
Deen: Well, it was probably when a black man burst into the bank that I was working at and put a gun to my head.
Lawyer: Okay. And what did you say?
Deen: Well, I don't remember, but the gun was dancing all around my temple ... I didn't -- I didn't feel real favorable towards him.
Lawyer: Okay. Well, did you use the N-word to him as he pointed a gun in your head at your face?
Deen: Absolutely not.
Lawyer: Well, then, when did you use it?
Deen: Probably in telling my husband.
Lawyer: Okay. Have you used it since then?
Deen: I'm sure I have, but it's been a very long time.
Lawyer: Can you remember the context in which you have used the N-word?
Deen: No.
Lawyer: Has it occurred with sufficient frequency that you cannot recall all of the various context in which you've used it?
Deen: No, no.
Lawyer: Well, then tell me the other context in which you've used the N-word?
Deen: I don't know, maybe in repeating something that was said to me.
Lawyer: Like a joke?
Deen: No, probably a conversation between blacks. I don't -- I don't know. But that's just not a word that we use as time has gone on. Things have changed since the '60s in the south. And my children and my brother object to that word being used in any cruel or mean behavior. As well as I do.
On her brother's behavior:
Lawyer: Are you aware of Mr. Hiers admitting that he engaged in racially and sexually inappropriate behavior in the workplace?
...
Deen: I guess
Lawyer: Okay. Well, have you done anything about what you heard him admit to doing?
Deen: My brother and I have had conversations. My brother is not a bad person. Do humans behave inappropriately? At times, yes. I don't know one person that has not. My brother is a good man. Have we told jokes? Have we said things that we should not have said, that -- yes, we all have. We all have done that, every one of us.
On telling jokes that target African Americans, Jews, gays and other groups:
Lawyer: What about jokes, if somebody is telling a joke that's got --
Deen: It's just what they are, they're jokes. Lawyer: Okay. Would you consider those to be using the N word in a mean way?

Deen: That's -- that's kind of hard. Most -- most jokes are about Jewish people, rednecks, black folks. Most jokes target -- I don't know. I didn't make up the jokes, I don't know. I can't -- I don't know.
Lawyer: Okay.
Deen: They usually target, though a group. Gays or straights, black, redneck, you know, I just don't know. I can't, myself, determine what offends another person.
On planning a Southern plantation-style wedding:
Lawyer: Do you recall using the words “really southern plantation wedding”? Deen: Yes, I did say I would love for Bubba to experience a very southern style wedding, and we did that. We did that. Lawyer: Okay. You would love for him to experience a southern style plantation wedding?
Deen: Yes.
Lawyer: That’s what you said?
Deen: Well, something like that, yes. And -–
Laywer: Okay. And is that when you went on to describe the experience you had at the restaurant in question?
Deen: Well, I don’t know. We were probably talking about the food or –- we would have been talking about something to do with service at the wedding, and –-
...
Lawyer: Is there any possibility, in your mind, that you slipped and used the word “n----r”?
Deen: No, because that’s not what these men were. They were professional black men doing a fabulous job.
Lawyer: Why did that make it a -– if you would have had servers like that, why would that have made it a really southern plantation wedding?
...
Deen: Well, it –- to me, of course I’m old but I ain’t that old, I didn’t live back in those days but I’ve seen the pictures, and the pictures that I’ve seen, that restaurant represented a certain era in America.
Lawyer: Okay.
Deen: And I was in the south when I went to this restaurant. It was located in the south.
Lawyer: Okay. What era in America are you referring to?
Deen: Well, I don’t know. After the Civil War, during the Civil War, before the Civil War.
Lawyer: Right. Back in an era where there were middle-aged black men waiting on white people.
Deen: Well, it was not only black men, it was black women.
Lawyer: Sure. And before the Civil War –- before the Civil War, those black men and women who were waiting on white people were slaves, right?
Deen: Yes, I would say that they were slaves.
Lawyer: Okay.
Deen: But I did not mean anything derogatory by saying that I loved their look and their professionalism.
Read the transcript of the entire deposition here: Paula Deen Deposition Testimony.

[Black Voices = Huffington Post]

Related:
Celeb chef Paula Deen admits using 'N' word

Trending on Twitter: #PaulasBestDishes

Shock of all shocks! And I thought Helen Lawson was a throwback... well, he is, but damn!

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If Paula issues an apology to the public through her publicist, is all forgiven and this thread can be closed?
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If Paula issues an apology to the public through her publicist, is all forgiven and this thread can be closed?
Not all apologies are the same. Personal opinions said in private are fine depending on who said it.
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This entire thing is just so damn ignorant and sad. Im not too shocked that she said it. She is damn near 70 and from all the way down there in Savannah. But what really makes me shake my head is how non chalant she is about it. She basically was like yeah im from the south and EVERYBODY around me was racist so its ok for me to be. I honestly cannot. And then the whole story about her black employees and that whole 'slave' wedding is horrible.
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^ Interesting though!

I'm now imagining a modern fusion of Irish food and Tex-Mex and I'm confused
That's they already fused and made Tex-Mex, which has a lot more beef, cheese and heavier sauces than true Mexican (or even New Mexican or Arizona or California) cuisine does.

I'm partial to Tex-Mex, of course, but the others are awfully good, too.
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I only know her through appearing on Kathy Griffin's reality show. I guess Canadians would know Paula so it's international, kinda like celebs who are only famous in Ireland and the UK
I've never heard of her
also, why is it controversial that she has diabetes
anyway, she she sounds like a stupid twat
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Its going to be hard to walk past this bitches Gooey Butter Cake at Wal Mart....omg they are sooooo good!
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also, why is it controversial that she has diabetes
She cooks mind-bogglingly unhealthy food on her cooking show, and she encourages her viewers to use her disgusting recipes. She basically has spent her entire career promoting food that causes diabetes, and now that she has diabetes, she is getting paid to endorse diabetes medicine. It is pretty hypocritical.

This woman is not only a horrendous cook, she is also a vile human being. I can't stand her!
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Paula Deen is a Democrat

http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-...#ixzz2WpQDO6a4

The Food Network star campaigned for Obama back in 2008, and invited his wife Michelle to cook with her during an episode of Paula's Party. Later, she said she "just loved" being around the First Lady, and praised her platform: encouraging kids and young adults to eat healthy and get plenty of exercise.
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