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Roger Federer 65 47.45%
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Old Apr 5th, 2013, 04:32 AM   #31
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Old Apr 5th, 2013, 04:40 AM   #32
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'Jelena Jankovic' is spelt wrong in the poll
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When Serena reaches 17 then we can start a discussion on this.

But as of today, Roger has more slams, way more weeks at number 1, more titles, more YECs.
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Old Apr 5th, 2013, 05:31 AM   #35
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That's cherry picking though. Because Murray beat him at the Olympic final quite handily shortly after. Props to Federer though, he had a tough match vs Del Potro beforehand.
Yeah outside the slams I imagine Roger's top 10 record is pretty meh these days (even probably even quite average in slams).
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But how can you talk about their level of play and leave out results? Vika and Maria are routing players, and not allowing them more than a couple of games regularly.. their level of play is really high imo. Though we can agree to disagree

Though, I do find it strange that you have such a strong opinion (saying the ATP youngsters are at a higher level of play than the WTA youngsters) and then go on to say that they are incomparable.
Okay, if you want to equate Maria's game and abilities to Nadal's simply because she's routing players, be my guest.

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That's cherry picking though. Because Murray beat him at the Olympic final quite handily shortly after. Props to Federer though, he had a tough match vs Del Potro beforehand.
That's chery picking though. Because Federer beat Murray at the YEC quite handily. Props to Murray though, he had a tough match vs Djokovic beforehand.

It's not cherry-picking btw, Federer had a 6-6 record against top 4 players last year. (Djokovic was 8-8 for comparison) Pretty good for a past his prime 31 year old playing against GOAT level players all 5-6 years younger than him.
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Roger Federer is head and shoulders above Serena, it's what is acknowledged by everyone but some of die-hard WTA/Serenafans
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I'm a Serena fan but Roger has been far more consistent than her.
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Serena is far and above better than her competition. Roger is unbelievable, but he isn't beating guys 6-0, 6-1 regularly.
Not going to take part in this discussion (though some of the answers in this thread make me ) but you're seriously taking that as an argument? You do realize that in men's tennis matches are very rarely won with bagels and breadstick compared to women's tennis, right? That's what happens when the average player has a much better serve.
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Serena Slam + Olympic Gold is greater than anything Roger has done.

Sure he is more consistent but Serena is ageless and rivalless.

Federer at his best can be beaten by Nadal. In fact, on clay it's a guarantee that Nadal will win. But Serena at her best cannot be beaten by anyone.
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If this thread was on MTF then it would be 100% Fed, 0% Serena. This is a Womens Tennis Forum so why should male players be brought into it?
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Roger Federer is head and shoulders above Serena, it's what is acknowledged by everyone but some of die-hard WTA/Serenafans
I don't think that any all time great is head and shoulders above another, but I'd say that Federer is above Serena by perhaps half a head at this point. On the womens side there are several other players part of the GOAT debate (Court, Evert, Navratilova, Graf...) while on the mens side it's only between Roger and Rod Laver.
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Serena Slam + Olympic Gold is greater than anything Roger has done.

Sure he is more consistent but Serena is ageless and rivalless.

Federer at his best can be beaten by Nadal. In fact, on clay it's a guarantee that Nadal will win. But Serena at her best cannot be beaten by anyone.
All that doubles success helps too.
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Re: Greater GOAT?

Easy question. Federer. If you ask people who's the greatest tennis player ever, I dare to say 70% says Federer and less than 10% says any female player.

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Prize money is bullshit because until recently...men were given much more money when winning. Appart from GS and Masters, it's still like that anw
Not exactly. Greatness is not only your sports achievements. Otherwise we'd be comparing Graf and Federer here. Greatness is not only sports achievements but also being appreciated. And prize money is an easy way to compare the appreciation of athletes from the same era. Men's tennis has more prize money just because it's more appreciated. Worse thing for WTA players but that's how things go.
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