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Old Nov 8th, 2013, 03:33 PM   #3376
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Re: •~º~º~Welcome to Vikaland~º~º~ • off-topic/introduction thread- Vikalume 2.

Doing the annual like/dislike lists for 7 years now and I miss the days where it was easier to come up with the lists.
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Old Nov 8th, 2013, 03:55 PM   #3377
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Re: •~º~º~Welcome to Vikaland~º~º~ • off-topic/introduction thread- Vikalume 2.

I guess this year Vika will finish second behind Errani as the most disliked player. It's funny to observe which fanbases often rank her highly on their dislike lists: Sharapova fans, Wozniacki fans, Radwanska fans and Na fans. Did I miss any?
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Old Nov 8th, 2013, 07:46 PM   #3378
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I don't think she will be that low .
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Old Nov 13th, 2013, 08:39 PM   #3379
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Re: •~º~º~Welcome to Vikaland~º~º~ • off-topic/introduction thread- Vikalume 2.

Well firstly I just wanted to bump the off topic thread . Hope you are all well .

Anyway I was reading the latest mailbag here: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ten...bag/index.html.

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On Monday evening, I am checking the mobile website of ESPN (the network that televised the final of the ATP World Tour Finals) and the match did not make the top five stories at the top of the page, nor is there a link in any of the 10 or so secondary stories on the main page. Yes, the match does get a small mention on the regular website, but you would think the "network that covers the majors" would provide more coverage.
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• When -- if? -- the ATP ever gets around to hiring a CEO, here's some advice for the new boss: Commission a panel to study how tennis can get out of this vicious media cycle. The sport is promoted horribly and is in a long-term abusive relationship with television. Thus the ratings and metrics are lousy. Citing the lousy ratings, the networks continue to treat tennis shabbily.

I'm telling you, I've been in these conversations and they go something like this:

Network: "How can we take tennis seriously when some Serb plays someone from Bohemia and they do ratings that rival a test pattern?"

Tennis: "When you bury tennis and shift starting times and don't promote the sport on your other platforms and dismiss players if they're not from the markets you prefer, you're already dooming the sport."

Network: "Maybe you misunderstand. I have nothing against tennis. My wife still plays at the club. It's just that from a P&L perspective, I can't justify a 45-second clip on SportsCenter -- much less real programming time and money -- for two guys viewers don't care about."
This had me thinking. Firstly the real problem there isn't a problem of marketing at all. It's a problem of just a lack of top American male player. There's nothing for them to particularly market.

It's interesting how most the forecasts for tennis in America are of doom and gloom. I mean in this article it tries to apply this as if it's a world issue, which I don't believe it really is.

You do wonder what the future of American events is. Even on the WTA where they have the women's world number one, you have events disappearing at an alarming rate. It's pretty much down to its bare bones from next year with only 4 events in the US in the build up to the US Open. A situation which isn't exactly helping them develop stars of the future.
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Old Nov 13th, 2013, 10:46 PM   #3380
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Well firstly I just wanted to bump the off topic thread . Hope you are all well .

Anyway I was reading the latest mailbag here: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/ten...bag/index.html.

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This had me thinking. Firstly the real problem there isn't a problem of marketing at all. It's a problem of just a lack of top American male player. There's nothing for them to particularly market.

It's interesting how most the forecasts for tennis in America are of doom and gloom. I mean in this article it tries to apply this as if it's a world issue, which I don't believe it really is.

You do wonder what the future of American events is. Even on the WTA where they have the women's world number one, you have events disappearing at an alarming rate. It's pretty much down to its bare bones from next year with only 4 events in the US in the build up to the US Open. A situation which isn't exactly helping them develop stars of the future.
It pisses me off how everyone is talking all doom and gloom for the the future of American's tennis, when the women's number one is American and at this point the US arguably has the most future potential of any nation with both Scone and Madison Keys, as well as some others. Who knows how they'll turn out, but both have done more than Robson, yet she's absolutely worshipped by the Brits. I don't know whether it's sexism, racism, (and I usually don't either of those arguments at all) or what, but it is very annoying. It doesn't help that the WTA is obsessing over Asia either .
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Old Nov 14th, 2013, 08:01 PM   #3381
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It pisses me off how everyone is talking all doom and gloom for the the future of American's tennis, when the women's number one is American and at this point the US arguably has the most future potential of any nation with both Scone and Madison Keys, as well as some others. Who knows how they'll turn out, but both have done more than Robson, yet she's absolutely worshipped by the Brits. I don't know whether it's sexism, racism, (and I usually don't either of those arguments at all) or what, but it is very annoying. It doesn't help that the WTA is obsessing over Asia either .
The main doom and gloom stems from your tournaments disappearing rapidly. For whatever reason funding and backing for tournaments in the USA is disappearing. Part of the problem imo is US tournaments operate on an out of date model.

I don't really understand though when you have a USTA making 9 figures every US Open, why they don't bail out tournaments. The amount to bail out these events would be a drop in the ocean to them, and you'd think it helps them in what should be their goal of producing players for the next generation. In the UK specifically, all the tournaments are owned by the LTA, a tournament wants some extra funding they just get it from the LTA. This is why you see events getting upgraded, new events appearing in the UK.

The main reason Robson is popular in Britain is due to media coverage. She's been groomed to be the next big thing since she was 14. She's been built up as the media darling for years. I presume tennis gets far greater media coverage here than in the USA, thus more people take note. For example, during Wimbledon this year, one of our papers was going with big headlines of the organisers not helping Robson by not putting her on Centre Court.
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Old Nov 18th, 2013, 01:13 AM   #3382
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Re: •~º~º~Welcome to Vikaland~º~º~ • off-topic/introduction thread- Vikalume 2.

I hate doing group projects in school. I always feel like I'm saddled with the most incompetent, mentally unable people who should have never been allowed into university.
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Old Nov 18th, 2013, 02:50 AM   #3383
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Oh that is frustrating! In general enjoy group projects and actually wish i had more. Its more fun working with people and they force you not to procrastinate since you have to meet with them at reasonable times. It is very hard when you aren't on the same page as the others though.


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I had to vote for Lady Aga over Vika for shot of the year because hers really was the most fun even though that volley from Vika was absolutely amazing . Also, those idiots didn't put the Cincinnati final as match of the year so I was going to put the AO final but decided to put Cincy as a write-in vote instead. The US Open final will probably win .
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