[coolfish1103]

Three Hands

2013 will be Test Season for suggestions and changes!

Please read the rule post carefully as there are rule changes throughout the season.



2013 Test Season Tournaments

Australian Open - Drake1980 def. SAISAI-GOAT
Doha - OhNaNa def. goOudinUSA
Dubai - taloki def. Buitenzorg
Indian Wells - tina110 def. valac222
Miami
Charleston
Stuttgart
Madrid
Rome
Roland Garros
Wimbledon
Stanford
Carlsbad
Toronto
Cincinnati
US Open
Tokyo
Beijing
Istanbul

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Rules

Choose

Each participant must choose

12 (3-4-5) different players for [128 Draw] or
 9 (2-3-4) different players for [ 64 Draw] or
 6 (1-2-3) different players for [ 32 Draw/RR]

participating in the tournament before main draw begins.

- The players must be arranged in the fashion where they are in 3 hands (groups).
- If you choose a qualifier before qualifying is finished, identify the draw spot.  Q1 = first Q on the draw
- You may not select LL as one of your players.
- You may not change your picks once you have posted.
- For tie break purposes, please list the number of games played for the final.

Hands

         128 draw   64 draw    32 draw/RR

Hand 1 = 3 players, 2 players, 1 player
Hand 2 = 4 players, 3 players, 2 players
Hand 3 = 5 players, 4 players, 3 players

- You may list back up players for each player in case there's a withdrawal.

Points Earned

Each player chosen receives points according to the following chart based on round lost:

    Size  W   F   SF  QF  R16 R32 R64 R128

128 Draw  7   6   5   4   3   2   1   0
 64 Draw  6   5   4   3   2   1   0
 32 Draw  5   4   3   2   1   0

          W   F   SF  RR3 RR4

 RR       4   3   2   1   0

Total points earned = 3*(Hand 1) + 2*(Hand 2) -or- 0*(Hand 2) + 1*(Hand 3) -or- 0*(Hand 3)

- Chosen players who received BYE in the draw and lost in their first match will receive 0 points.
- Perfect Hands: Earn bonus points (x2).  Read below for more info.
- No perfect hands bonuses will be awarded for tournaments in RR format.
- 2*(Hand 2) if [Hand 2 > Hand 1]    , else 0*(Hand 2).
- 1*(Hand 3) if [Hand 3 > Hand 1 + 2], else 0*(Hand 3).

Tournament Tie Break

In case there are participants who receive equal points:

- Points acquired in Hand 2 & Hand 3,                        if equal
- Points acquired in Hand 3,                                 if equal
- Points acquired in Hand 2,                                 if equal
- Correct final games guessed,                               if equal
- Closer final games guessed,                                if equal
- Greater of total rankings combined for the players chosen, if equal
- Whoever posted their hands first

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To Play

Post
- Simply list your three hands clearly and identify your back ups before main draw begins.
- Back ups are not necessary if undesired.
- List a final tie break but are not necessary if undesired.

We will use Brisbane 2013 as an example:

Hand 1
- Pavlyuchenkova (Errani)

Hand 2
- Kerber (Stosur)
- Kvitova (Vinci)

Hand 3
- Azarenka (Lisicki)
- Sharapova (Wozniacki)
- S.Williams (Stephens)

Final
- 20 games

Score
- A scoreboard will be updated by the manager

How to score?

Hand 1
> 4
> 4 x 3 = 12, earns 12 points

Hand 2
> 2 + 1 = 3
> 3 < 4 so 3 x 0 = 0, earns 0 points

Hand 3
> Wozniacki replaces Sharapova
> 3 + 0 + 5 = 8
> 8 > 4 + 3, earns 8 points

Total Scored: 12 + 0 + 8 = 20 Points

Perfect Hands
- Perfect Hands may have multiple combinations.

How to achieve perfect hands?

 32 draw = Pick Winner, Finalist, 2 Semifinalists and 2 of the 4 Quarter-finalists
 64 draw = Pick Winner, Finalist, 2 Semifinalists, 4 Quarter-finalists and any 1 Round 16 achiever
128 draw = Pick Winner, Finalist, 2 Semifinalists, 4 Quarter-finalists and any 4 Round 16 achievers

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Ranking Points

Ranking Rule
- Points earned in each tournament (subject to tournament bonuses) will be added to your ranking
- Max 16 tournaments will count, no mandatory tournaments

Tournament Bonuses

Tournament   WIN  RUP   3-4  5-8  9-16

Grand Slam  x16  x12.8 x9.6 x6.4 x3.2
Premier M.  x8   x6.4  x4.8 x3.2 x1.6
Premier 5   x6   x4.8  x3.6 x2.4 x1.2
Premier     x4   x3.2  x2.4 x1.6
Int.        x2   x1.6  x1.2

- Participants ranked 1-8 will be able to play YEC, with 2 alts
- 8 Participants not in YEC who have won an Int. this year will be able to play TOC, with 2 alts

Tournament   WIN  RUP   3rd   4th   5th  6th  7th  8th

YEC         x25  x22.5 x20   x17.5 x15  x12.5 x10  x7.5
TOC         x10  x9    x8    x7    x6   x5    x4   x3

Ranking Tie Break

In case there are participants who receive equal points:

- Lesser total number of tournaments participated, if equal
- Points earned in Grand Slams,                    if equal
- Points earned in Premier Mandatories,            if equal
- Points earned in Premier 5,                      if equal
- Points earned in Premiers,                       if equal
- Points earned in Internationals,                 if equal
- Stay tied

* Note that 2013 Australian Open and Doha will earn less ranking points due to less players picked.

[coolfish1103]

Ranking Points after Indian Wells:

Rank	P Rank	Participants	Points		AO	Doha	Dubai	Indian Wells
								
1	2	OhNaNa  	1372.8		220.8	744	76.8	331.2
2	5	tina110 	1353.6		681.6	53	11	608
3	1	Drake1980	1343.2		1152	64.8	48	78.4
4	9	valac222	1002.8		454.4	70.8	4	473.6
5	4	Buitenzorg	990.4		224	446.4	108.8	211.2
6	3	SAISAI-GOAT	921.6		921.6			
7	7	goOudinUSA	745.6		60	595.2	12	78.4
8	6	Cheda 16.17	681.6		681.6			
9	10	feifei  	611.4		454.4	53	16	88
10	11	taloki  	610.4		214.4	146.4	152	97.6
11	8	luvwilliams	538.2		454.4	70.8	13	
12	12	anthonyqld	512.4		66	446.4		
13	14	Chilenaitor	497.2		62	297.6	48	89.6
14	13	traddles	454.4		454.4			
15	24	Monzanator	452.2		53	52	16	331.2
16	16	Igorche 	413.2		224	66	33.6	89.6
17	17	Kylger  	399.4		224	70.8	15	89.6
18	15	Heinann 	396.8		224	144	28.8	
19	23	coolfish1103	353.6		66	53	17	217.6
20	22	Meelis  	332.2		61	72	4	195.2
21	20	Barktra 	311.8		67	72	81.6	91.2
22	18	Reephoria.	285.2		214.4	70.8		
23	26	champion88	272.6		67		4	201.6
24	19	supertec	224		224			
25	21	JustPetko	220.4		60	146.4	14	
26	25	lolada_4	80		60	20		
27	27	Hidalgo 	67		67			
28	28	charmedRic	66		66			
29	29	plokploky	64		64			
30	30	DiRenan 	64		60		4	
31	31	HateBlackouts02	63		63			
32	31	come on lena	63		63			
33	33	rbfilipe	56		56			
34	34	lizzard11120	48		48			
35	35	JustWonderful	42		42

* Note that 2013 Australian Open and Doha will earn less ranking points due to less players picked.

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Picking Ideas

For an 128-draw game, the maximum amount of basic points one can get would be 51.

If you try to max Hand 1 for bonus points, your Hand 2 & 3 will receive zero points, like below:

Example 1

7-6-5 = 18x3 = 54

5-4-4-4 = 17x0 = 0

4-3-3-3-3 = 16x0 = 0

Total: 54+0+0 = 54 points x 2 = 108 points

Therefore, one generally has to split the winner and finalist into different hands.

Example 2

7-5-5 = 17x3 = 51

6-4-4-4 = 18x2 = 36

4-3-3-3-3 = 16x0 = 0

Total: 51+36 = 87 points x 2 = 174 points

If someone wants to receive points for the third hand as well to reach the maximum possible, then Hand 3 needs 26 points.

Example 3

5-4-3 = 12x3 = 36

4-3-3-3 = 13x2 = 26

7-6-5-4-4 = 26

Total: 36+26+26 = 88 points x 2 = 176 points

Note: There are multiple combinations of getting those points.

Basically, one either has to go for 12-13-26 or 17-18-16 in basic points. Going for 17-18-16 is much more risky cause one can end up with a higher Hand 1 (like example 1) which effectively kills your earning for Hand 2. Going for 12-13-26 is much safer but the points awarded are usually not the maximum cause it's typically easier to predict who reaches the final but not who reaches Round 16.

The idea of the game is to split your risks. It's somewhat like learning to how do multiple bets in a betting environment to have insurance in case one of your bets fail, so eggs are not all in a basket. Obviously I am not doing a very good job to formulate the game the way I wanted so the rules kept on changing... but it seems like this current rule will stick quite long

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Scoreboard after Final:

Rank Participant   Score

 01  valac222      64
 02  digor         58 Hands 2&3 = 24+22
 03  Igorche       58 Hands 2&3 =  0+22
 04  Hidalgo       56
 05  goOudinUSA    55
 06  Meelis        54
 07  Drake1980     51
 08  feifei        50 Final Game: 20 (25)
 09  Kylger        50 Final Game: 18 (25)
 10  JustPetko     45 Hands 2&3 = 18+21
 11  coolfish1103  45 First to post
 12  tina110       45
 13  Buitenzorg    43

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Picks

Please make sure your picks and scores are correct.

Round-by-Round Scoring is within the picks. Hands in RED means final points.

coolfish1103   01012 TB: 17

Hand 1
- S.Williams
- Sharapova
- Kvitova
> 7+6+2=15*3=45
Hand 2
- Kerber
- Ivanovic
- Errani
- Li
> 2+3+4+4=13<15 so 13*0=0
Hand 3
- Barthel
- Vinci
- Kirilenko
- Wozniacki
- Bartoli
> 0+4+2+2+0=8<24 so 8*0=0
> 45+0+0=45

Kylger         01014 TB: 18

Hand 1
- Li
- Petrova
- Kirilenko
> 4+2+2=8*3=24
Hand 2
- Kvitova
- A.Radwanska
- Errani
- Suarez Navarro
> 2+5+4+2=13>8 so 13*2=26
Hand 3
- Sharapova
- S.Williams
- Kerber
- Wozniacki
- V.Williams
> 6+7+2+2+2=19<21 so 16*0=0
> 24+26+0=50

Meelis         02016 TB: 19

Hand 1
- S.Williams
- Sharapova
- A.Radwanska
> 7+6+5=18*3=54
Hand 2
- Wozniacki
- Bartoli
- Kuznetsova
- Kerber
> 2+0+2+2=6<16 so 6*0=0
Hand 3
- Kvitova
- Jankovic
- Li
- Kirilenko
- Barthel
> 2+5+4+2+0=13<22 so 13*0=0
> 54+0+0=54

valac222       02017 TB: 19

Hand 1
- Bartoli
- Kirilenko
- Vinci
> 0+2+4=6*3=18
Hand 2
- Errani
- Li
- Kvitova
- Kerber
> 4+4+2+2=12>6 so 12*2=24
Hand 3
- Sharapova
- Petrova
- S.Williams
- A.Radwanska
- Wozniacki
> 7+2+6+5+2=22>18 so 22*1=0
> 18+24+22=64

goOudinUSA     02018 TB: 24

Hand 1
- Stephens
- Li
- Errani
> 3+4+4=11*3=33
Hand 2
- Woznaicki
- Kerber
- Ivanovic
- Kirilenko
> 2+2+3+2=9<11 so 9*0=0
Hand 3
- Sharapova
- S.Williams
- V.Williams
- A.Radwanska
- Kvitova
> 6+7+2+5+2=22>20 so 22*1=2
> 33+0+22=55

feifei         02019 TB: 20

Hand 1
- Kerber
- Vinci
- Petrova
> 2+4+2=8*3=24
Hand 2
- A.Radwanska
- Kvitova
- Errani
- V.Williams
> 5+2+4+2=13>7 so 13*2=26
Hand 3
- S.Williams
- Sharapova
- Safarova
- Li
- Wozniacki
> 7+6+0+4+2=19=19 so 19*0=0
> 24+26+0=50

tina110        02020 TB: 17

Hand 1
- S.Williams
- Kerber
- Sharapova
> 7+2+6=15*3=45
Hand 2
- A.Radwanska
- Kvitova
- Errani
- Petrova
> 5+2+4+2=13<15 so 15*0=0
Hand 3
- Stephens
- Pavlyuchenkova
- Wozniacki
- Cibulkova
- Kirilenko
> 3+0+2+3+2=10<18 so 10*0=0
> 45+0+0=45

Buitenzorg     02021 TB: 18

Hand 1
- V.Williams
- Goerges
- Barthel
> 2+0+0=2*3=6
Hand 2
- Errani
- Bartoli
- Wozniacki
- Kvitova
> 4+0+2+2=8>2 so 8*2=16
Hand 3
- S.Williams
- Li
- Kirilenko
- Sharapova
- Kerber
> 7+4+2+6+2=21>10 so 21*1=21
> 6+16+21=43

digor          02023 TB: 20

Hand 1
- Li
- Barthel
- Bartoli
> 4+0+0=4*3=12
Hand 2
- Vinci
- Wozniacki
- Errani
- Petrova
> 4+2+4+2=12>2 so 12*2=24
Hand 3
- S.Williams
- Sharapova
- A.Radwanska
- Kerber
- Kvitova
> 7+6+5+2+2=22>14 so 22*1=22
> 12+24+22=58

Igorche        02024 TB: 21

Hand 1
- Jankovic
- Ivanovic
- Li
> 5+3+4=12*3=36
Hand 2
- Kerber
- Bartoli
- Kvitova
- Kirilenko
> 2+0+2+2=6<12 so 6*0=0
Hand 3
- S.Williams
- A.Radwanska
- Sharapova
- Kuznetsova
- Wozniacki
> 7+5+6+2+2=22>18 so 22*1=22
> 36+0+22=58

JustPetko      02025 TB: 23

Hand 1
- Lisicki
- Kuznetsova
- Barthel
> 0+2+0=2*3=6
Hand 2
- Kirilenko
- Bartoli
- A.Radwanska
- Wozniacki
> 2+0+5+2=9>2 so 9*2=18
Hand 3
- Vinci
- Sharapova
- S.Williams
- Kvitova
- Kerber
> 4+6+7+2+2=21>11 so 21*1=21
> 6+18+21=45

Drake1980      02027 TB: 17

Hand 1
- Azarenka
- Barthel
- Kuznetsova
> 0+0+2=2*3=6
Hand 2
- Errani
- Wozniacki
- Kvitova
- Kerber
> 4+2+2+2=10>2 so 10*2=20
Hand 3
- S.Williams
- Sharapova
- A.Radwanska
- Stephens
- Vinci
> 7+6+5+3+4=25>12 so 25*1=25
> 6+20+25=51

Hidalgo        02028 TB: 30

Hand 1
- Bartoli
- Errani
- Petrova
> 0+4+2=6*3=18
Hand 2
- Wozniacki
- Li
- Kvitova
- Kerber
> 2+4+2+2=10>6 so 10*2=20
Hand 3
- Sharapova
- Ivanovic
- S.Williams
- A.Radwanska
- Petrova
> 6+3+7+5+2=23>16 so 23*1=23
> 15+18+23=56

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Main Draw

[1] S.Williams vs. BYE
Pennetta vs. Larsson
Watson vs. Morita
BYE vs. [31] Wickmayer
[17] Safarova vs. BYE
Oprandi vs. Rus
Mladenovic vs. Wozniak
BYE vs. [13] Cibulkova
[9] Wozniacki vs. BYE
Hradecka vs. Qualifier
Qualifier vs. [WC] Muguruza
BYE vs. [23] Pavlyuchenkova
[25] Lepchenko vs. BYE
Erakovic vs. Begu
Tatishvili vs. Bertens
BYE vs. [5] Li

[4] A.Radwanska vs. BYE
Hsieh vs. Tsurenko
Rybarikova vs. Qualifier
BYE vs. [27] Barthel
[19] V.Williams vs. BYE
Date-Krumm vs. Scheepers
Govortsova vs. Qualifier
BYE vs. [16] Stephens
[10] Bartoli vs. BYE
Jovanovski vs. [WC] Petkovic
Pervak vs. [WC] Tomljanovic
BYE vs. [24] Goerges
[30] Flipkens vs. BYE
Qualifier vs. Martic
Arvidsson vs. Peng
BYE vs. [7] Kvitova
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[6] Errani vs. BYE
Pironkova vs. Hantuchova
Halep vs. Lisicki
BYE vs. [26] Paszek
[18] Makarova vs. BYE
Dominguez Lino vs. Kuznetsova
Beck vs. U.Radwanska
BYE vs. [12] Ivanovic
[14] Kirilenko vs. BYE
[WC] Puig vs. Qualifier
Medina Garrigues vs. Dulgheru
BYE vs. [21] Zakopalova
[29] Vesnina vs. BYE
Qualifier vs. Qualifier
[WC] Bouchard vs. Qualifier
BYE vs. [3] Sharapova

[6] Kerber vs. BYE
Schiavone vs. Qualifier
Parmentier vs. Qualifier
BYE vs. [28] Cirstea
[22] Jankovic vs. BYE
[WC] Duval vs. Hlavackova
Zheng vs. Shvedova
BYE vs. [11] Petrova
[15] Vinci vs. BYE
[WC] Kontaveit vs. McHale
Hampton vs. Niculescu
BYE vs. [20] Suarez Navarro
[32] Cornet vs. BYE
Robson vs. Giorgi
[WC] Keys vs. Qualifier
BYE vs. [2] Azarenka

Will update qualifiers after matches are complete.

Rules remain the same as Indian Wells.

[Kylger]

In!

[coolfish1103]

Main Draw is now up.

Qualifiers will be filled after matches complete tomorrow.

[coolfish1103]

Hand 1
- S.Williams
- Sharapova
- Kvitova

Hand 2
- Kerber
- Azarenka
- Errani
- Li

Hand 3
- Barthel
- Vinci
- Kirilenko
- Wozniacki
- Bartoli

Final
- 17 games

Alts
- Ivanovic
- A.Radwanska
- V.Williams
- Mladenovic

[goOudinUSA]

[Kylger]

Hand 1: Li, Petrova, Kirilenko

Hand 2: Kvitova, A. Radwanksa, Errani, Suarez Navarro

Hand 3: Sharapova, S. Williams, Kerber, Wozniacki, Azarenka

[Kylger]

Originally Posted by Kylger

Hand 1: Li, Petrova, Kirilenko

Hand 2: Kvitova, A. Radwanksa, Errani, Suarez Navarro

Hand 3: Sharapova, S. Williams, Kerber, Wozniacki, Azarenka

Final: 18 games

ALTS: V.Williams, Vinci, Safarova