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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 07:54 AM   #1711
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Re: Fed Cup Thread Vol 2: WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich in Limoges! 09.-10.Februar

http://www.stern.de/sport/rittner-ge...s-1969378.html

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Angelique Kerber und Andrea Petkovic fehlten verletzt, Mona Barthel wollte nicht spielen. Unter der Woche legte ein Magen-Darm-Virus Julia Görges flach, Annika Beck hatte hohes Fieber, Sabine Lisicki klagte nach ihrer Anreise aus Thailand über Müdigkeit, Jetlag und erste Anzeichen einer Erkältung. Teamarzt Ulf Blecker war als Mediziner mindestens so gefordert wie als Psychologe.

"Am Freitag hatte ich ein bisschen Panik, dass wir gar nicht antreten können", sagte Rittner.
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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 09:44 AM   #1712
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Das ist ja so ein schöner Artikel..ich freue mich so für Rittner und die Mädels..und was man nun an dem deutschen Team zu quaken hat werde ich wirklich nie verstehen.
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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 11:21 AM   #1713
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Re: Fed Cup Thread Vol 2: WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich in Limoges! 09.-10.Februar

das sehe ich erst jetzt:

Dies sorgte vor allen Dingen bei Rittner für große Erleichterung. Die 39-Jährige hatte wegen des grassierenden Magen-Darm-Virus im deutschen Team fast nicht auf ihrer Bank Platz nehmen können.

die mädels hätten um ein haar auf rittner verzichten müssen...ein alptraumszenario für saraya...
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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 11:29 AM   #1714
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Re: Fed Cup Thread Vol 2: WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich in Limoges! 09.-10.Februar

^ Die hatten also fast alle diesen Magen-Darm-Virus?

In Zukunft sollten die Mädels die Hände voneinander lassen, damit dass nicht wieder passiert.
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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 11:51 AM   #1715
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das sehe ich erst jetzt:

Dies sorgte vor allen Dingen bei Rittner für große Erleichterung. Die 39-Jährige hatte wegen des grassierenden Magen-Darm-Virus im deutschen Team fast nicht auf ihrer Bank Platz nehmen können.

die mädels hätten um ein haar auf rittner verzichten müssen...ein alptraumszenario für saraya...
unvorstellbar.
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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 12:09 PM   #1716
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Re: Fed Cup Thread Vol 2: WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich in Limoges! 09.-10.Februar

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Okay versuchen wir das mal durchzurechnen.

Zunächst für Deutschland

Code:
       Punkte  Faktor  abgewertete Punkte
2012/2:    0	1	   0
2012/1:    0	1	   0
2011/2: 2180	0,75	1635
2011/1: 1600	0,75	1200
2010/2:    0	0,5	   0
2010/1:    0	0,5	   0
2009/2: 2150	0,25	 537,5
2009/1: 1600	0,25	 400
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                        3772,5
nach dem Sieg über Frankreich

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       Punkte  Faktor  abgewertete Punkte
2013/1: 1600    1       1600
2012/2:    0	1	   0
2012/1:    0	0,75	   0
2011/2: 2180	0,75	1635
2011/1: 1600	0,5	 800
2010/2:    0	0,5	   0
2010/1:    0	0,25	   0
2009/2: 2150	0,25	 537,5
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                        4572,5
Die Punkte für Deutschland stimmten genau

Hier das neue Ranking, das bestätigt, dass Deutschland ungesetzt sein wird.
http://www.fedcup.com/en/rankings/current-rankings.aspx
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Re: Fed Cup Thread Vol 2: WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich in Limoges! 09.-10.Februar

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Die Punkte für Deutschland stimmten genau

Hier das neue Ranking, das bestätigt, dass Deutschland ungesetzt sein wird.
http://www.fedcup.com/en/rankings/current-rankings.aspx
Leider knapp verpasst. Anstelle von Japan gehört Deutschland gesetzt
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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 01:34 PM   #1718
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Re: Fed Cup Thread Vol 2: WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich 3-1! Gut gemacht, Mädels!

Das ganze Setzungssystem ist völlig unnötig. Abstiegskandidaten gg. Aufstiegskandidaten wäre logisch.
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Old Feb 11th, 2013, 01:36 PM   #1719
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Re: Fed Cup Thread Vol 2: WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich 3-1! Gut gemacht, Mädels!

http://www.fedcup.com/en/news/articl...nch-hopes.aspx

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10 Feb 2013

Goerges ends French hopes

By Stuart Fraser

LIMOGES, FRANCE: It will be the Fed Cup by BNP Paribas World Group play-offs for the eleventh consecutive year for Germany after a 3-1 victory over France in the World Group II first round tie in Limoges.

After taking a 2-0 lead after the opening day, Julia Goerges finished off the tie at the first time of asking with a 64 62 victory over Pauline Parmentier. France gained some consolation with victory in the dead doubles rubber but Amelie Mauresmo’s side will have to try and stave off relegation for the second year in a row in April’s World Group II play-offs.

This was a high quality match-up for a first round tie in the second tier of the Fed Cup. After a tough draw last year when Germany suffered relegation after consecutive defeats against the Czech Republic and Australia, France away on clay was not an easy prospect. For the visitors to clinch the match after the third rubber was not what many would have expected.

“I expected every single match to be close and it was,” said Germany captain Barbara Rittner. “Now it sounds easy but there was at least five very close sets. It could have gone the other way with a little change here and there but I am very pleased and happy that we won.”

For Parmentier, the world No. 76 ranked 57 places lower than Goerges, it was always going to be a tough ask to keep the tie alive. However, she made a decent fist of it in the early stages on the German’s serve, earning a couple of break points, one saved by Goerges with an ace down the T and other not taken when Parmentier netted a backhand slice.

Goerges began to find her rhythm and got the crucial break for 4-3 when Parmentier hit a forehand wide. A forehand winner down the line moments later sealed the first set 64 for the German.

After breaks were exchanged in the opening two games of the second set, Goerges hit a stunning forehand cross-court winner to break Parmentier once more for 2-1. The Frenchwoman’s frustrations began to show as she could not earn a further opportunity to break back due to some typical big serving from Goerges.

A further break from Goerges for 5-2 gave her the chance to serve out the tie which she duly did, Parmentier netting a backhand on match point. It was an accomplished performance from the 24-year-old, who impressively won 30 of 30 points on her second serve throughout the one hour and 26 minutes.

“Pauline is a very talented player and she started out pretty well,” said Goerges. “I got into tight moments on my service games where she had a lot of break points. I stayed somehow in the first set and didn’t give her an easy lead. And then she broke down a little bit and I took advantage of it.”

Under the new Fed Cup dead rubber policy, the match between Sabine Lisicki and Kristina Mladenovic was not played. France’s opportunity to try and finish the weekend on some sort of high was taken by Mladenovic and Alize Cornet in the doubles, beating Annika Beck and Anna-Lena Groenefeld 63 64.

It was not the start to her captaincy that Mauresmo would have hoped for this weekend. The former world No. 1 was honest in admitting that her team simply came up against better opponents.

“The experience and the level they play all long year at,” she said, on the difference between the sides. “On paper and on court we were not the best players throughout this weekend and it showed.”
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Das ganze Setzungssystem ist völlig unnötig. Abstiegskandidaten gg. Aufstiegskandidaten wäre logisch.
Wieso? Erfolg wird eben belohnt.

Was absolut unnötig ist, sind die 2 Weltgruppen, aber das liegt eben an der WTA, die keine 4 Termine wie die ATP in ihrem Terminkalender unterbringen kann.
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Das ganze Setzungssystem ist völlig unnötig. Abstiegskandidaten gg. Aufstiegskandidaten wäre logisch.
Nein, ist es nicht. Das wäre beschissen. Es muss eine Setzliste geben. Aber nach Ranking der 2 besten Einzelspielerinnen und dem Fed Cup Ranking in Kombination.

Deutschland muss gesetzt sein, nicht Japan. Da muss man nur auf das WTA-Ranking schauen
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Wieso? Erfolg wird eben belohnt.
Erfolg wird belohnt, deswegen spielt eine Mannschaft aus WG1 gg. eine auf WG2. Waren ja alle nicht zufällig da. Logisch, nachvollziehbar, funktioniert in zig Sportarten problemlos.

Stattdessen ein endloses Rumgerechne, für das du ja gestern bei Japan schon eine Viertelstunde gebraucht hast, ohne es präzise hinzubekommen.

Schlicht nicht attraktiv für den Fan, wenn er schon überhaupt nicht nachvollziehen kann, wer denn jetzt warum gegen wen spielt, ohne sich Ewigkeiten durch Regularien lesen zu müssen und anschließend Excel anzuwerfen.
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Stattdessen ein endloses Rumgerechne, für das du ja gestern bei Japan schon eine Viertelstunde gebraucht hast, ohne es präzise hinzubekommen.
Weil natürlich Transparenz fehlt. Die ITF könnte hier mal ein einfaches Rankingbreakdown anbieten. Das Problem ist nämlich, dass kein Mensch mehr weiß, wo der Gegner xy vor 4 Jahren im Ranking stand und welche Bonuspunkte man dafür benötigt.

Außerdem ist das nur ein Problem bei typischen Fahrstuhlmannschaften, dass man nicht weiß, ob gesetzt oder nicht gesetzt. Hätte Deutschland in den letzten Jahren mal ein HF erreicht oder wäre in der Weltgruppe geblieben, wäre das auch keine Rechnerei.

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2011: Aufstieg in WG1
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Re: Fed Cup Thread Vol 2: WGII: Deutschland - Frankreich 3-1! Gut gemacht, Mädels!

Artikel von Petra Willemsen der gut anfängt und mit einem platten Seitenhieb auf Mona Barthel ziemlich schwach endet.

http://de.eurosport.yahoo.com/blogs/...7220--ten.html

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Das Team hängen zu lassen, als sich auch noch Kerber verletzte, hinterließ einen faden Beigeschmack.
Das ist natürlich ziemlicher Blödsinn, weil Rittner gar nicht mehr Barthel gefragt hat nach Kerbers Ausfall. Das hat Barthel ganz klar so gesagt. Ob sie dann die Meinung geändert hätte, weiß natürlich keiner. Ich bleibe auch bei meiner Meinung, dass da mehr hinter Barthels Absage steckt, aber das nicht unbedingt in der Öffentlichkeit ausgetragen werden soll.
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