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Old Feb 24th, 2015, 03:47 PM   #1
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Eight killed in Uherskı Brod, Czech Republic restaurant shooting

http://www.theguardian.com/world/201...eaths-reported

A mayor in the Czech Republic says at least eight people have died after a gunman opened fire in a restaurant.

Patrik Kunčar, mayor of Uherskı Brod, said the gunman, a local man aged about 60, was among the dead.

The Czech interior minister, Milan Chovanec, was also quoted by two media outlets as saying that eight people had been killed.

Uherskı Brod, is about 180 miles (290km) south-east of Prague.
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Old Feb 24th, 2015, 04:48 PM   #2
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The gunman was a 60 year-old Czech guy so no.
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Old Feb 24th, 2015, 05:58 PM   #5
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Re: Eight killed in Uherskı Brod, Czech Republic restaurant shooting

Europe is becoming more and more like America
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Europe is becoming more and more like America
most of the world is
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Old Feb 24th, 2015, 11:22 PM   #7
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The gunman was a 60 year-old Czech guy so no.
What? Are you saying IS is biased against old dudes? Yeah I know not the greatest subject to make jokes about but hey
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Europe is becoming more and more like America
I wonder why.
Europeans spend a lot of time and energy saying how much they don't want to be like Americans.

Maybe Europeans are just being Europeans, time to face themselves.
But there is still a chance to blame it on ISIS
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Old Feb 25th, 2015, 08:51 AM   #10
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I wonder why.
Europeans spend a lot of time and energy saying how much they don't want to be like Americans.

Maybe Europeans are just being Europeans, time to face themselves.
But there is still a chance to blame it on ISIS
I think it's modern society in general. Many recent studies are showing how difficult human beings are finding the modern world - technology, lack of stability at work and home, the focus on materialism and capitalism. And it's affecting males in particular as they are struggling to find their role as the old structures which gave them a role are disappearing and they don't have the old career structures and relationships that there were 50 years ago and they don't have an identity or feel in control. I haven't explained it well but recent studies have!
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Re: Eight killed in Uherskı Brod, Czech Republic restaurant shooting

I meant to add its one of the reasons so many people are falling back on drugs and alcohol there has been a massive increase in recent years.
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Old Feb 25th, 2015, 09:28 AM   #12
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Re: Eight killed in Uherskı Brod, Czech Republic restaurant shooting

Well, I know in America the violent crime rate/murder rates are plummeting so I think it's more the Internet and 24/7 news that makes us all aware of every crime and therefore it seems worse than before but it's really not.

Sad story though
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No.

To put a long story short:

This little town houses a big gunmaking factory and the number of firearms in this city is probably quite high, as many residents are former factory employees, their friends, relatives, etc., i.e. there's a relatively easy access to guns.

The company exports heavily to the US (there's a big demand), they also supplied Egyptian or Thai police/armed forces with firearms, etc.

The perpetrator was an unemployed, deranged guy who felt that he was 'being bullied by authorities'.

Just a local tragedy. Quite sad though.
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Old Feb 25th, 2015, 11:33 AM   #14
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Europe is becoming more and more like America
this kind of thing isn't an US American thing. You have these kind of killings everywhere from time to time because you have deranged people everywhere.

The US American thing, as even President Obama has bemoaned in the past, is the frequency, even normality, of them and more importantly an overall extraordinary level of violence between civilians, civilians to police and police to civilians compared to absolutely every other industrialised nation on the planet. Obama has been trying to change that, but he must often feel like he's fighting against wind mills.

As shown by the post of Petronius, easy access to firearms was again the beginning and end of a tragedy.

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I wonder why.
Europeans spend a lot of time and energy saying how much they don't want to be like Americans.

Maybe Europeans are just being Europeans, time to face themselves.
But there is still a chance to blame it on ISIS
United States' murder rate is almost 5 times higher than Czech Republic's so Europeans have every right to not want to be like Americans in this matter.
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