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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 03:50 PM   #16
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

Aren't the RG speed guns crap? I mean I love Na but there's no way she served that fast
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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 03:52 PM   #17
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

I think we can take these figures with a pinch of salt to be honest. The radar gun really isn't that accurate and does throw up a few anomalous readings. I remember a Baltacha serve reading 138mph at Wimbledon 3 years ago and an Henin 2nd serve clocking in at over 130 somewhere. In both cases the readings were so absurd that nobody was jumping up and down claiming a new record. But it does illustrate that the technology is not reliable enough to base bona fide records upon.

They use the same piece of kit to measure the pace of bowlers in cricket and it throws up some equally strange readings there from time to time as well.
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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 03:52 PM   #18
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

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The French Open speed guns are a mess, so it's no surprise all these strange scores are from RG.

The list is complete crap anyway. Venus and Brenda have hit 130, Serena 129 in Charleston 08 and so on.
Exactly. No way did Li serve a 123mph serve.

Didn't Venus hit 130 in Zurich '08? That was strangely never documented by the WTA. And I'm assuming that Lisicki's 206kph serve from Bali was a freak speed gun error.
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

RG balls are bit smaller and lighter IIRC
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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 04:07 PM   #20
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

fastest serves of all time and yet not a single serve before 2007 makes the list......the comparison is certainly flawed......players have access to better rackets these days.......

GOAT comparison is again legit because there we are comparing the fields and achievements of players in relation to the fields, not the speed of groundstrokes or the spin oon the ball or the bend of the forehands or backhands......
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

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Aren't the RG speed guns crap? I mean I love Na but there's no way she served that fast

Goerges stats from RG 2012

Goerges vs Hradecka

fastest 1st serve 202 km/h
avarage 1st serve 171 km/h
average 2nd serve 138 km/h

Goerges vs Watson
fastest 1st serve 183 km/h
average 1st serve 173 km/h
average 2nd serve 124 km/h

Goerges vs Rus
fastest 1st serve 182 km/h
average 1st serve 172 km/h
average 2nd serve 133 km/h

So it looks like this 202 km/h was a unique serve , which was more than 20 km/h faster than any other her serve at that tournament.....

Most probably a mistake of radar
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

Na? She barely hits a 170 kmh now! I watched a bit of Malek at the HC, but I seriously don't remeber her hitting serves that fast

Petrova has a great first serve too, but probably not fast enough for the top 10 of all time
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

It`s really funny , the WTA only accepts serves from some courts and the speed guns on these courts do not even work perfectly
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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 04:41 PM   #24
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

The Goerges, Na and Malek ones are clearly wrong.
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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 04:45 PM   #25
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

Sprem used to be able to hit 122/3 MPH, I believe.
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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 04:46 PM   #26
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

Kinda random list, Where's Nadia? She easily hits 200kph
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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 04:56 PM   #27
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

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Goerges stats from RG 2012

Goerges vs Hradecka

fastest 1st serve 202 km/h
avarage 1st serve 171 km/h
average 2nd serve 138 km/h

Goerges vs Watson
fastest 1st serve 183 km/h
average 1st serve 173 km/h
average 2nd serve 124 km/h

Goerges vs Rus
fastest 1st serve 182 km/h
average 1st serve 172 km/h
average 2nd serve 133 km/h

So it looks like this 202 km/h was a unique serve , which was more than 20 km/h faster than any other her serve at that tournament.....

Most probably a mistake of radar
Some crooked logic going on in this thread.

FASTEST speed has nothing to do with whether it's "unique" or not. That's more relevant to the AVERAGE speed of a server.
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Old Jan 30th, 2013, 05:14 PM   #28
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

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Some crooked logic going on in this thread.

FASTEST speed has nothing to do with whether it's "unique" or not. That's more relevant to the AVERAGE speed of a server.

No , if for instance Serena serves in the range 110-124 mph on regular basis , i can believe she can hit 129 mph , but if for instance Li Na can barely hit 110 mph serve (her fastest speed at AO was 108 mph), i won't believe in her potential to hit 120+ serves

in Goerges case , it's ridiculous that a player whose top speed at Wimbledon 112mph , AO 114mph, and the whole year never exceeded 120mph hit at FO that uniques serve 126.1 and didn't hit any other serve at RG even close to 120 mph
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The Goerges, Na and Malek ones are clearly wrong.
anyway they are in the record books
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Re: Top 10 Fastest Serves of All Time (Venus,Serena,Ana,Na,4 Germans)

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No , if for instance Serena serves in the range 110-124 mph on regular basis , i can believe she can hit 129 mph , but if for instance Li Na can barely hit 110 mph serve (her fastest speed at AO was 108 mph), i won't believe in her potential to hit 120+ serves

in Goerges case , it's ridiculous that a player whose top speed at Wimbledon 112mph , AO 114mph, and the whole year never exceeded 120mph hit at FO that uniques serve 126.1 and didn't hit any other serve at RG even close to 120 mph
Really?
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