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Old Jan 27th, 2013, 02:11 PM   #31
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Re: How is the Australian Open viewed as a "grand slam"

Another twist on discussion of which one is superior Christmas or Hanukkah
AO is a fine slam and as every other slam provides unique values. I love every one of them for slightly different reasons AO is being the first of the year, unique location (exotic for me), heat, atmosphere, etc.
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Old Jan 27th, 2013, 02:14 PM   #32
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Re: How is the Australian Open viewed as a "grand slam"

If anything, Australian Open is the best organized and the most exciting slam year ever year for me.

Their website and stuff are definitely the best too!
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Old Jan 27th, 2013, 02:21 PM   #34
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Re: How is the Australian Open viewed as a "grand slam"

Did anyone listen to the AO website radio commentary? It was very funny at times. The best way to listen to the matches
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Old Jan 27th, 2013, 02:24 PM   #35
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Why would you make comment like that. I am merely pointing out that it is one of the discussions where people are trying to assert their own preference for whatever reason (cultural, religious, other personal). I did not mean it literally.
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Re: How is the Australian Open viewed as a "grand slam"

Not at all I mean, it's maybe not quite as prestigious as Wimbledon, but I certainly see it on a par with the other 3. Great crowds which get the right balance between engagement/feistiness and respectfulness, not overly-commercialised to the detriment of the quality of tennis like the US Open is, and also it tends to USUALLY have the best quality of matches (though admittedly this year was a big exception to that).
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Re: How is the Australian Open viewed as a "grand slam"

I sort of see the point the OP is trying to make, although I definitely wouldn't go as far as putting it on par with Miami.

Wimbledon and Roland Garros has the sense of history & tradition to make them that little bit extra special. Plus RG has all of clay season as buildup, as does the US Open series whereas the Aussie Open has a couple of weeks. I think the US Open has a better atmosphere than the AO too, but it's all down to personal preference.

A lot of it will depend on where you're from as well. For Europeans especially, following the AO in its entirety is difficult.
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Re: How is the Australian Open viewed as a "grand slam"

Useless discussion, if there's a slam whose status should be questioned it should be the USO as its generally poorly organized.
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Re: How is the Australian Open viewed as a "grand slam"

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Old Jan 27th, 2013, 02:43 PM   #41
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Re: How is the Australian Open viewed as a "grand slam"

With the disappearance of clay court tennis skills and clay court players, I would say the French Open is undergoing some kind of identity crisis. It seems that hardcourt baseliners can go there and bash their way to victory without having to adapt too much to the surface. The uniqueness of the tournament is rapidly changing to fit the requirement for the same style of tennis all year round.
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Old Jan 27th, 2013, 02:45 PM   #42
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Re: How is the Australian Open viewed as a "grand slam"

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It's a great tournament all in all there's no denying that but there's just something lacking about it which I couldn't feel in Roland Garros, SW1 or in Flushing Meadows. Maybe its historical background and all those things but, I will never truly view it the same as with the three. The vibe I get is the same as in Miami. I'm not surprised some elitists refer to it as a MM slam.

Your point is well taken.




The finals match aired at 3:30AM EST in the USA. Its hard to be taken seriously as a major sporting event when you are on TV in that time-slot for the most important viewing demographic in your sport.

You could almost call it the forgotten major. Of the 4, it clearly has the least value. Although for different reasons, the legitimacy of the French Open has also greatly declined.

There are a lot of negatives to the Australian Open. First, its very difficult to get to for just about everybody. The tournament is held right in the middle of the NFL playoffs, which in the USA is the dead zone for anything sports related outside of football. And the entire country of Australia only has about 22 million people. That's the same number of people you would find just in the New York City metropolitan area alone! If you are objective. It might be time for a change.

The good news for the Australian Open is China. I think there are a lot of positives to calling the Australian Open "The Championship of South Asia." Or maybe even "The Championship of Asia." Of course, this strategy is centered around growth opportunities in China. However the problem is the WTA finals match was airing at 4:30PM in Bejing, which is certainly better than 3:30AM in the USA, but its not exactly primetime.

If you are having 1 of the 4 biggest tournaments of the year and you miss primetime TV in the USA, China and Europe.... then by the modern definition of sports, you have a problem!


Of course the ridiculous purists will be up in arms. And historians will cry. But for the better long term growth of the tournament and major, it would be much better off in China than in Australia. I know this may seem like a strange notion now. And I am sure it will draw laughs. But at some point in the future, I wouldn't bet against it.

If you go by the numbers, in the modern world of sports, Australia has no business annually hosting tournament of this value.
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What does MM mean ?
Mickey Mouse. Mickey Mouse is used as a pejorative (negative) for anything that is poor or flimsy. So when users refer to a tournament as a MM tournament genuinely (and not in a trollish way like this thread), it means that it doesn't mean much in their eyes... usually due to the lack of good quality players.
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Useless discussion, if there's a slam whose status should be questioned it should be the USO as its generally poorly organized.
Wow!


Um... the US Open is the most important tournament of the year.




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