[Jimmie48]

Originally Posted by Brad[le]y.

Don't try to reinvent your persona After Kvitova won Wimbledon in 2011, you were going on and on about how Wozniacki was still better because she had won more tournaments.

Because back then Caro did have a better career. Not anymore of course and this doesn't apply to Vika either as she has confirmed her first slam both with a strong post-slam run and a second slam..two accomplishments Kvitova has never made.

[Deestruction]

Originally Posted by marineblue

Yes,in terms of no. of tournaments won she is the better player.

[LindsayRulz]

Originally Posted by Brad[le]y.

So is Davenport better than Serena because she's won more tournaments?

Of course she is!! 55 > 47

[marineblue]

Originally Posted by Jimmie48

I'm pressed?

You're the on desperately trying to talk down the accomplishments of another player. And the biggest challenge was Hampton? Vika also comprehensively beat Kuznetsova... do we want to talk about who she beat to get her? You`re making a fool of yourself, sorry.

Oh Jimmie, when were you not pressed, I think that is a better question. I am not putting anyone down,just telling you what you don't like to hear. Yes,the biggest challenge was Hampton. Kuznetsova used gamesmanship to beat Caro and apparently it served Vika as a good inspiration. However, let's not pretend she is any kind of dangerous opponent with her up-and-down performance and also Caro is far from her best form.

[Jimmie48]

Originally Posted by marineblue

Oh Jimmie, when were you not pressed, I think that is a better question. I am not putting anyone down,just telling you what you don't like to hear. Yes,the biggest challenge was Hampton. Kuznetsova used gamesmanship to beat Caro and apparently it served Vika as a good inspiration. However, let's not pretend she is any kind of dangerous opponent with her up-and-down performance.

She beat Caro twice this year...what does that tell us then? You can't have it both ways.

Gamesmanship... have you sunken that low yet? You sound like the most bitter Sharapovastans around here.

[UNCLESILAS]

This is too much really Don´t know why you even bother Jimmie. Back to read my Truman Capote.

[Patrick345]

Originally Posted by NashaMasha

she is as good for WTA as Klitschko for boxing heaviweight or Patrick Chan in figure skating

So you consider Vitalika and Wladirena to be so far above their competition that it becomes boring! I knew you were truly a fan at heart, but that will be a tough sell in SS, that you threw Maria under the bus like that.

[marineblue]

Originally Posted by Jimmie48

She beat Caro twice this year...what does that tell us then? You can't have it both ways.

Gamesmanship... have you sunken that low yet? You sound like the most bitter Sharapovastans around here.

Oh,please,Kuznetsova took breaks at key points of the match at both matches they played during the AO series. And both times it happened when she was at the losing end. Surely that was a total coincidence

Had she pulled similar stunts against Azarenka you'd be singing a different song now, as we can all imagine.

[marineblue]

Originally Posted by UNCLESILAS

This is too much really Don´t know why you even bother Jimmie. Back to read my Truman Capote.

You'd better go as you have little to say. Just stay within the Vika circle who is trying to convince themselves that during last 2 weeks we've seen da best that tennis has to offer.

[borrowedheaven]

Originally Posted by Jimmie48

I wonder if you said the same if Caro somehow had won it.... guess not. You`re so full of shit, it's pathetic

He's exactly saying what you have been saying about Caro a year ago. So hypocritical.

[Stonerpova]

Originally Posted by borrowedheaven

He's exactly saying what you have been saying about Caro a year ago. So hypocritical.

+1

But it's hilarious so please carry on.

[Mike81]

I like Vika because she does her own thing and while she may not win popularity contests, she wins slams

[stromatolite]

Yes, of course. I wouldn't say that she's GOAT material, but she's one of the few players in recent years who plays at a consistently high level. If she ever gets a serve she'll be amazing.

Her badass image is mainly a media creation IMO. She's no angel, but she's not even close to being the super-bitch a lot of people make her out to be.

[Six Feet Under]

Fans will start to appriciate her geniune nature. WTA needs a down to earth champion. Serena and Maria almost disassociate themselves from other girls and anything WTA.

On the terms of 'sportsmanship', It's completely hypocritical to say that Serena or Maria are better. Plus Vika creates 0 drama off court, it seems all the other girls are just waiting to take digs at each other.

[TZVETI83]

Originally Posted by Tenis Srbija

And who exactly plays to lose?

By play to win, I mean that the top players of the game, past and present compete for every single point like it was match point or the most important, there might be errors here and there but they handle the high pressure moments just like any other point, they don't let the pressure get to them. Its the player mentality of a champion. Victoria has that strong mentality, she will win at any cost even if her game is not up to par on a particular day, mentally she is very strong. Only the best have that. Its confidence, its drive, its an instinct and in many cases it comes off as being cocky, cold, etc.

Ivanovic, Wozniacki, Jankovic never fully had that, you knew there was always a moment of fragility. A moment where the pressure would crumble.