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MarkNL · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:16 AM

Maybe Vika needs to be clever and think why the crowd was completely against her instead of playing the victim

wtftennis · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Lachy

The proof of poor sportsmanship is taking an MTO (two) at 5-4 before your opponents service game just after they sustained momentum after saving 5-matchpoints. That's it. Why is that so hard to understand?

Because if your good you dont need MTO's. The other player gets a break as well so theres no disadvantage, its not like the game is postponed till the next day. The better player will win regardless.

Lachy · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Soliloque

Because she's not the one taking anything. If you want to blame someome, blame the trainer and the doctor for taking a 10 minutes MTO at this moment. Vika is just a girl who was having trouble to breath who asked to be checked during the changeover.

I know you'd like to think that. But if she was having breathing problems, wouldn't it make sense to just have that dealt with instead of saying 'BTW, can you look at my knee too?'? Because breathing problems are a big cause for concern. The fact that she complained of knee pain too completely undermines that entire situation.

I have already said 100000 times that the scenario has nothing to do with the trainer/doctor. All they could do was treat the problem as it was reported to them. She could have said that her eye was sore and they would have treated it. They cant prove that the problem is there. They have to trust the player. That's the system.

aselto · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:20 AM

Vuvurenka claims her extremely loud noises she produces during points do not affect their outcome. Why would their outcome be affected by any noise between points?

Lachy · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by wtftennis

Because if your good you dont need MTO's. The other player gets a break as well so theres no disadvantage, its not like the game is postponed. The better player will win regardless.

So it therefore didn't happen because Azarenka is 'good.'? If you want to have a logical debate on something then can you please try and come up with some substance? You're clearly a fan/trying to defend her but that sort of argument will get you nowhere.

Reephoria. · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:29 AM

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Originally Posted by anthonyqld

The crowd was appalling, which has been said many times.

Why would an Australian newspaper, 1 in Melbourne that publishes the story, talk about how bad the crowd behaved if they didn't? What's in it for them? If anything, they'd say the crowd behaved better than they did.

The fact of the matter is that crowd were not appalling, I don't believe they were. A news paper can publish what ever they want and whatever they think will make a story, it doesn't have to be true. News limited are well aware of the fact that the general public, on a global scale, dislike Vika and they can exaggerate the events of last night to try and get readers to empathise with Azarenka and soften her image.

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And you don't think the Australian crowd was to Azarenka last night?

No they simply weren't. The French crowd were truly appalling, that stadium was booing constantly, that stadium was cheering Hingis to lose, last nights crowd wanted Li to win but they were not completely against Vika, it's completely different to what happened in Paris.

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And Australian's have been to Serena before. The Sydney crowd was disgusting one year, and Serena called the crowd racist afterwards.

I can only recall the AO crowd be against Serena once and that was the 2003 SF when she took a MTO and the spectators where unaware of the severity of Serena's blister. I don't recall her calling the crowd racist because Australian supports, especially in Melbourne Park, respect and appreciate and like Serena.

wtftennis · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Lachy

So it therefore didn't happen because Azarenka is 'good.'? If you want to have a logical debate on something then can you please try and come up with some substance? You're clearly a fan/trying to defend her but that sort of argument will get you nowhere.

Even if she did take an excuse MTO based on nerves or breathing, which she denied and theres no proof. Isnt it also logical to take it? I mean she's not at her best game, and needs to chill. It might be against the rules, cheating, bad sportmanship or what other labels you want to add. Isnt it common sense? Shouldnt common sense be above rules? Do you follow every rule? If we would all follow every rule we'd be living like robots. We are not like that we are human we make errors, its part of life. And you have to make your way somehow in this world. For them its tennis and they have to follow the rules, at least only if it looks that way. ITs just lame to say a 10 minute timeout is bad sportmanship because as emotional humans we are entitled to it. Like i said Sloane also got a break, did she complain? no. Too wreck someone cause of something this silly is just disgusting.

Sergius · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Lachy

I have already said 100000 times that the scenario has nothing to do with the trainer/doctor. All they could do was treat the problem as it was reported to them. She could have said that her eye was sore and they would have treated it. They cant prove that the problem is there. They have to trust the player. That's the system.

They fixed her rib. Fixing a rib hurts, you know. It's not like she asked for back massage or smth not painful.

Lachy · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Sergius

They fixed her rib. Fixing a rib hurts, you know. It's not like she asked for back massage or smth not painful.

you should read up on the actual treatment/problem.

anthonyqld · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Lachy

you should read up on the actual treatment/problem.

Yes. Azarenka has said it was her rib, and that is what she was treated for

Caesar1844 · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by anthonyqld

Yes. Azarenka has said it was her rib, and that is what she was treated for

In that case, can I interest you in the purchase of a bridge?

Sergius · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Lachy

you should read up on the actual treatment/problem.

Or maybe I have already done that, and there is smth wrong with you that doesn't allow you to leave the thread already

Lachy · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:48 AM

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Yes. Azarenka has said it was her rib, and that is what she was treated for

I was just laughing at the choice of words. Her rib wasn't 'fixed' as there was no actual problem with it. Her back was treated because her rib had supposedly locked which caused the shortness of breath.

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then she requested treatment on her knee too.

Yerrrrrrrr ok.

wtftennis · Jan 27th, 2013, 07:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Lachy

I was just laughing at the choice of words. Her rib wasn't 'fixed' as there was no actual problem with it. Her back was treated because her rib had supposedly locked which caused the shortness of breath.

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ouch...

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then she requested treatment on her knee too.

Yerrrrrrrr ok.

Maybe invest your time concentrating on your own life and hard work instead of laughing and putting players down that have achieved so much. It's such a common symptom of haters, 'my life sucks so ill just try to put others down as well'

Caesar1844 · Jan 27th, 2013, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by wtftennis

Maybe invest your time concentrating on your own life and hard work instead of laughing and putting players down that have achieved so much. It's such a common symptom of haters, 'my life sucks so ill just try to put others down as well'

Calling someone a hater = acknowledging you cannot counter their argument on logical grounds.