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Old Jan 25th, 2013, 12:55 AM   #61
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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincingly trashed in slams

Some of these losses are sad .

Are people really counting Wimbledon '08 though? Her shoulder at that stage had been broken for a couple of months already . She shouldn't have even been playing in hindsight. If Serena and other players get free passes for some awful losses because of an injury, the same should defnitely apply to Maria and her torn shoulder at Wimbledon '08 .

Although apart from RG '09 which was only her second or third (can't remember which) tournament back after the surgery, that's really the only totally awful loss in a slam that can really be excused .

She's also had a lot of tight losses (Kirilenko at '10 AO, Oudin at '09 USO) that are just as awful on paper as the beatdown losses. Such is life for Maria I guess. At least she finally got over that final hurdle at RG last year.

Maria is comparable to Dementieva just in the respect of bouncing back from tough losses - the only difference being Maria has the career slam to keep her warm now. Elena had no such things .
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Old Jan 25th, 2013, 03:01 AM   #62
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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincingly trashed in slams

This is a dumb thread. Why? Maria will be fine.
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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincely trashed in slams

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Since the beginning of 2011, Maria has lost only two matches in three sets. The other 23 losses were in two sets.
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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincingly trashed in slams

The problem with Maria is that she tends to either be 'on' or 'off.' There isn't much of an in-between. She's fought through tonnes of matches in her career in which she was 'off' her game. When she comes up against top players and throws in one of her bad days, we see scorelines such as these.

It explains why she has a lot of 2-set losses in comparison to 3-set losses. As a massive fan, when she's off...she's off.
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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincingly trashed in slams

C'mon.

Maria currently has 1 slam on her computer rankings and has won 4 grand slams.

It's not like she's 30 and losing every match 6-1 6-1.
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C'mon.

Maria currently has 1 slam on her computer rankings and has won 4 grand slams.

It's not like she's 30 and losing every match 6-1 6-1.
Hi Rollo. So was Hingis in 1999. We could be heading into another early 2000s competitive era.
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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincingly trashed in slams

She might have more of these losses if she doesn't continue to improve by playing with more margin when she needs to, develop a plan B. She'll need to play with more topspin to hopefully throw her opponent off rhythm when she isn't playing her best, when hitting hard and harder doesn't work, or when she's getting outplayed by superior strategy. Simple changes (see Li Na) can do her wonders IMO.

I think she's been working on her footwork which improves her defense. I hope she'll allow more input from her coach and add more dimension to her game because I am sure she improve if she decides to.
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Hi Rollo. So was Hingis in 1999. We could be heading into another early 2000s competitive era.
Hi Sam

You could be right. Let's hope the final is good and competitive.

I miss the Swiss Miss a LOT. While she never won another slam after 1999 she did still give us a lot of memories. The 1999 French, the delicious semi vs Venus at the 200 US Open, and of course the 2002 meltdown (literally!) vs Capriati at the Aussie.
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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincingly trashed in slams

2007 AO lost in the final pretty badly, 2008 AO wins the title. 2012 AO lost in the final 6-3 6-0, 2012 RG wins the title.
If Maria had let all those beatdowns get to her she would not be with a career slam now!

It doesn't matter what the score is she moves on fast and doesn't dwell on it, Having those losses makes you realize just how resilient she is. People who laugh at those losses can keep laughing
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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincingly trashed in slams

i disagree when people say she was off yesterday. for me, she was absolutely on. she was hitting deep and hard, going for corners and outserving (not outreturning) na li, what else can she do? the response she was getting to her great play was greater everytime
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She might have more of these losses if she doesn't continue to improve by playing with more margin when she needs to, develop a plan B. She'll need to play with more topspin to hopefully throw her opponent off rhythm when she isn't playing her best, when hitting hard and harder doesn't work, or when she's getting outplayed by superior strategy. Simple changes (see Li Na) can do her wonders IMO.

I think she's been working on her footwork which improves her defense. I hope she'll allow more input from her coach and add more dimension to her game because I am sure she improve if she decides to.
Spot on Quentinak.

The lack of margin for error goes a long way towards explaining why when she's off she's REALLY off.

She should also get over her fear of coming to net. When she gets a short ball she often hits it and moves back, only to caught by deep balls she could have easily put away.

Whatever her technical shortcomings I admire her fight.
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She certainly has been beaten with ease a lot in her career, odd for a player of her caliver. Is she the multiple slam winner that has recieved more beatdowns in slams?

AO 2013 SF vs Li 26 26
AO 2012 F vs Aza 36 06
AO 2011 4r vs Petko 26 36
AO 2007 F vs Sarin 16 26

RG 2009 QF vs Pome 26 06
RG 2007 SF vs Ajde 26 16

Wimby 2008 2r vs Alla 26 46
Wimby 2007 4r vs Vee 16 36

In 6 of those defeats she was inside the top 4.
lol. You need help son. Thankfully you're not a financial analyst.

First of all you present:

AO 2013 SF vs Li 26 26
AO 2012 F vs Aza 36 06
AO 2007 F vs Sarin 16 26
RG 2009 QF vs Pome 26 06
RG 2007 SF vs Ajde 26 16

Those are all showings of QF or better. If that's getting "trashed in slams" then most players look forward to being trashed.

Second you leave out all the matches in slams in which she routed other players.

Third - "been beaten a lot with ease" She has the 12th highest W/L percentage of all time.

So stop making yourself look stupid. Then again . .don't .there is entertainment value in it.
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i disagree when people say she was off yesterday. for me, she was absolutely on. she was hitting deep and hard, going for corners and outserving (not outreturning) na li, what else can she do? the response she was getting to her great play was greater everytime
Her play was abysmal. Yes Li was playing great tennis and might have taken it even if Sharapova had been on but the scoreline would have been a lot different. Like with all my faves I don't mind when they lose, even routed. I do mind when they play way below their top level.
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lol. You need help son. Thankfully you're not a financial analyst.

First of all you present:

AO 2013 SF vs Li 26 26
AO 2012 F vs Aza 36 06
AO 2007 F vs Sarin 16 26
RG 2009 QF vs Pome 26 06
RG 2007 SF vs Ajde 26 16

Those are all showings of QF or better. If that's getting "trashed in slams" then most players look forward to being trashed.

Second you leave out all the matches in slams in which she routed other players.

Third - "been beaten a lot with ease" She has the 12th highest W/L percentage of all time.

So stop making yourself look stupid. Then again . .don't .there is entertainment value in it.
Everyone else understood I was referring to the scoreline not the round she is being beaten, why you didn't / couldn't?
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