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Old Jan 24th, 2013, 07:05 PM   #46
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Old Jan 24th, 2013, 07:06 PM   #47
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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincingly trashed in slams

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This is serious and those words hurt me. I had enough when you had to involve Flopniacki in this.
You are right. These losses are worrying.

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A zillion ppl have said that and seemed to mean it how would I guess that you were being sarcastic.
Now, you are hurting me by insulting my intelligence. As if I really believed Na had a positive H2H over Maria and that Maria was owning Serena. Let's be real, I am not that dumb.
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Now, you are hurting me by insulting my intelligence. As if I really believed Na had a positive H2H over Maria and that Maria was owning Serena. Let's be real, I am not that dumb.
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I do give Maria credit. She has taken some thrashings on the biggest stages in tennis and brushed it off rather seemlessly.

This last match was weird cuz it wasn't a thrashing in the way her finals with Serena and Vika were here, every game went to deuce and she just somehow lost. With Vika/Serena she just wasn't ever in those matches (for the AO final).
No matter what you feel about the girl, you have to respect her. She takes these ruthless beatings and still shows up the next day in practice ready to work harder.
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Is it bad for the game? Has she passed her peak and will never win a slam again? Should she retire? Where does she go from here? All questions arising after the Li match fiasco.

She certainly has been beaten with ease a lot in her career, odd for a player of her caliver. Is she the multiple slam winner that has recieved more beatdowns in slams?

AO 2013 SF vs Li 26 26
AO 2012 F vs Aza 36 06
AO 2011 4r vs Petko 26 36
AO 2007 F vs Sarin 16 26

RG 2009 QF vs Pome 26 06
RG 2007 SF vs Ajde 26 16

Wimby 2008 2r vs Alla 26 46
Wimby 2007 4r vs Vee 16 36

In 6 of those defeats she was inside the top 4.
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Wholeheartedly agree with you on Martha's poor slam results.
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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincingly trashed in slams

What about in tier I semi finals, like Indian Wells 2005?

That was the one that started this dubious trend
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What about in tier I semi finals, like Indian Wells 2005?

That was the one that started this dubious trend
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Is it bad for the game? Has she passed her peak and will never win a slam again? Should she retire? Where does she go from here? All questions arising after the Li match fiasco.

She certainly has been beaten with ease a lot in her career, odd for a player of her caliver. Is she the multiple slam winner that has recieved more beatdowns in slams?

AO 2013 SF vs Li 26 26
AO 2012 F vs Aza 36 06
AO 2011 4r vs Petko 26 36
AO 2007 F vs Sarin 16 26

RG 2009 QF vs Pome 26 06
RG 2007 SF vs Ajde 26 16

Wimby 2008 2r vs Alla 26 46
Wimby 2007 4r vs Vee 16 36

In 6 of those defeats she was inside the top 4.





To be fair, this list is not a good indication to prove Sharapova 's impotence in Slams. If you care to look in the circumstance, many of her defeats are understandable. Nothing to be ashamed of.




Before her injury after the AO 08, Maria wasn't that good on clay as she was learning how to play on clay, hence the lose to Ana who was at her peak around 07-08. That leaves her only 2 defeats pre AO08 were to the hands of Venus at Wimby 07 ( Venus still plays GOAT on grass on 07-08) and Serena on her favorite surface ( Aussie in the 00s). So Maria only lost to players at their respective peak forms, but she herself is very consistent to perform at top level. Look at where Venus and Ana are now.







After AO08, Maria was playing error prone tennis and she didn't return to the top 10 or reaching top form until she stopped making too many errors in matches and made the SF at RG11 and F at Wimbly11. That marked the point where she was not losing to scrubs any more, only to top players who in their GOAT forms. So those matches against Alla, Pome, Petko were in the period that she was recovering to top form where she also lost to Kimiko and Caro. Once she got back to the top, Maria only lost to players who at their peaks aka Vika and Li at the Aussie.



In conclusion, Sharapova is one of the top players who is consistently contend for Slams to the last stages. If she runs into another player in GOAT form, she would lose which won't happen often b/c besides Serena, current players play GOAT once in a blue moon. If she doesn't ( run into an in form top player), then she will compete for the Slam titles). So there's a good chance that she would win at least a Slam in the next 2 years, esp when she is playing well on all surfaces.

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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincingly trashed in slams

She wasn't getting these type of beatdowns (besides that fluke match against Davenport which is also her only loss to her) until the Australian Open 2007 final Then next week she got her ass whopped by Ivanovic winning only 1 game I think? And then it all began.

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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincingly trashed in slams

She isn't the same player that she was in '06/'08. She's prone now to being out-played by any elite player who can match or better her off the ground, and her inconsistencies on the serve and return only add to that.
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I do give Maria credit. She has taken some thrashings on the biggest stages in tennis and brushed it off rather seemlessly.
Agreed.

I'm not being shady when I say that I believe her most admirable quality as a top player is her ability to respond gracefully and with humor after lopsided beat downs.

And she's never called no más.
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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincingly trashed in slams

Well, she's Russian, what do you expect? She's bound to play well on clay and lose as many finals as she can
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Re: Maria Sharapova being convincingly trashed in slams

What's the surprise? The ESPN commentators were feasting over Maria barely dropping games while beating a bunch of scrubs and a Venus playing at club level. I've always maintained that if a top player seriously goes out there and challenges Maria without giving up during the match she'll fold. This rarely happens because Maria is so good at gaining control of a match early and not giving the lead back that she is always able to pull out the win. It's when she actually has to deal with opposition that the double faults and errors really creep in.
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