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Old Jan 16th, 2013, 05:01 PM   #1
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Old Jan 16th, 2013, 05:02 PM   #2
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Re: Is Zheng Jie the best player in the 21st century to have NOT made the Top 10?

No.
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Old Jan 16th, 2013, 05:03 PM   #3
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Re: Is Zheng Jie the best player in the 21st century to have NOT made the Top 10?

Surely that's Cornet or Peer



They were so close
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Old Jan 16th, 2013, 05:08 PM   #4
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Re: Is Zheng Jie the best player in the 21st century to have NOT made the Top 10?

dan

yes she is because everytime she got a GS SF in her ranking, she got injured in the year afterward and could not maximize her point potential

the people saying that Cornet and Peer are better than Jie just because they vultured in a weak time to get to #11 or #12
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Re: Is Zheng Jie the best player in the 21st century to have NOT made the Top 10?

zheng zie is overrated, she was slaughtered by laura robson and gaungzhou last year.
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Ehh I was taking the piss hence the smileys.
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Old Jan 16th, 2013, 05:14 PM   #7
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Re: Is Zheng Jie the best player in the 21st century to have NOT made the Top 10?

Due to her ability to come back from injury and defeat top players and consistently push them, I'd say perhaps one of them. I think if she'd beaten Serena in one of those encounters, definitely.

Her serve is always a weakness, but her flat shots and court coverage when on are up there and better than some of the top ten. She just needs to be more consistent, which isn't saying much, to justify this claim, as she does often push top players to the brink if not beat them
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Re: Is Zheng Jie the best player in the 21st century to have NOT made the Top 10?

I hope this thread won't lead to a bashing of Little Jie.

Personally I think she could be one of them, hard to tell. She still lacks of certain things to become a top player: serve, power, variety and luck.
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Old Jan 16th, 2013, 05:20 PM   #9
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I hope this thread won't lead to a bashing of Little Jie.

Personally I think she could be one of them, hard to tell. She still lacks of certain things to become a top player: serve, power, variety and luck.
No, I was actually being serious I genuinely can't think of anyone else who's made 2 Slam semis and not made the top 10, plus she has... what... 5 titles on top of that? And quite a lot of big wins.

And in terms of game, I really don't see what Kerber does that Zheng can't also do (at her best).
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Old Jan 16th, 2013, 05:21 PM   #10
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I hope this thread won't lead to a bashing of Little Jie.

Personally I think she could be one of them, hard to tell. She still lacks of certain things to become a top player: serve, power, variety and luck.
Indeed.

She's far too match-up orientated too against the very best players. Some of them she matches up hideously against. Plus there's the general weaknesses, lack of raw pace on the first serve, harmless second serve, the lack of a consistently killer first strike. Etc, etc.

She has terrific footwork, beautiful timing, especially when deflecting pace, but it's just not enough to be a top 10 player.
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Re: Is Zheng Jie the best player in the 21st century to have NOT made the Top 10?

She probably is - at least in the 21st century. However, that's like saying saying someone makes the best clam chowder in Alabama
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Old Jan 16th, 2013, 05:25 PM   #12
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Re: Is Zheng Jie the best player in the 21st century to have NOT made the Top 10?

Well, the thread is not about whether she should be a top 10 player, but whether she is the best player never to be in the top 10. Those are different statements.

I think she might be, yeah. But who is the competition anyway? Maybe Cibulkova and Lisicki. Actually it's probably Cibulkova.
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No, I was actually being serious I genuinely can't think of anyone else who's made 2 Slam semis and not made the top 10, plus she has... what... 5 titles on top of that? And quite a lot of big wins.

And in terms of game, I really don't see what Kerber does that Zheng can't also do (at her best).
You know the problem for the Chinese players is, they didn't have a very proper training when they were young, and they didn't get many (sometimes hardly any) chances to play in youth events like Western teens could do. So eventually when they finally figure out how to play a match, they found themselves over 25 or near 30, and can't play that many events a year like younger girls because of declined stamina and accumulated injuries. And you can't get enough points to join that club without playing enough events unless your name is Serena W or Maria S.
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