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Old Jan 9th, 2013, 08:12 PM   #76
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Re: Kim Clijsters says Serena Williams was her toughest opponent of her career

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How many GS finals has Serena beaten Kim in?
About 3 shy of Henin's total

I love Kim.... gonna miss her.

Can't believe she is gonna go and retire when Serena and her could have made a heck of a rivalry this year.

Atleast we can always have the 09 US open to look back fondly on .
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Old Jan 9th, 2013, 08:12 PM   #77
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I thought they were friends?
Or it is just PR and all apparences.
PR and appearances. I remember Kim's dad accusing Justine of using PED's and Kim had a few underhanded comments herself about Justine. That was over 7 years ago though.
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Old Jan 9th, 2013, 08:13 PM   #78
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I've heard rumors that Serena is the GOAT.
Kim agrees.
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Kim agrees.
And that from someone who has played against Graf
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Old Jan 9th, 2013, 08:21 PM   #80
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PR and appearances. I remember Kim's dad accusing Justine of using PED's and Kim had a few underhanded comments herself about Justine. That was over 7 years ago though.
Well, Rodriguez was being an ass about it. In fact, it was very unhealthy back then.
Justine and Kim used to be BFFs until they became pros. Justine started to choke against her, and Rodriguez made her believe her father enjoyed to see her lose to Kim and some bullshit.
So that fired up Henin who desesperately needed her father's attention. She trained her ass off to beat Kim in slams.
But in 2007 she reconciled with her father. So she softened up a lot. Things got better with Kim after Lei's death. Then when she came back, she lost that drive against Kim while Kim had that fire.
And I thought they were being genuine at least, at almost 30, having fun at the Fed Cup, having exhos together, praising each other about their mutual influence.
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Old Jan 9th, 2013, 08:42 PM   #81
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She does have a winning H2H against Justine and Venus whereas she doesn't against Serena... Logical answer.
Kim's winning H-H against Justine is primarily due to her three wins over a rusty Justine, one in Henin's firt tournament of her comeback and Justine's injury at Wimbledon. Still, I don't doubt that Serena was tougher for her to beat than Justine, especially on hard or grass courts.
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Kim's winning H-H against Justine is primarily due to her three wins over a rusty Justine, one in Henin's firt tournament of her comeback and Justine's injury at Wimbledon. Still, I don't doubt that Serena was tougher for her to beat than Justine, especially on hard or grass courts.
Love how these haters are making excuses/calling Kim a liar why Kim picked Serena.
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Hey Kim... Duh!!!
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Yes. All 3 of them.
NO IN THE THIRD STATEMENT!
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Re: Kim Clijsters says Serena Williams was her toughest opponent of her career

If Kim hadn't turned around the H2H she easily could have said Venus over Henin. I think Kim was being honest and not attempting to throw shade at Justine like people here are suggesting. True enough Justine beat Kim for 3 GS titles but Kim blew a few big leads to Serena in very big matches. That is what determines how tough an opponent is. Kim was almost cruising to victory in the 3rd set of the USO 1999 and AO 2003 but Serena is such a fierce competitor and Kim was so weak mentally she couldn't close out the deal.


For what its worth Kim ABSOLUTELY deserved her USO 2009 title BUT I really feel like Serena wasn't "done" in that match and I say that because of those previous flops from Kim plus Serena's innate ability to pull herself from the brink. Not saying that Serena would have won necessarily but I definitely think she had it in her to keep that match going had the foot fault incident not occurred.
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Old Jan 10th, 2013, 12:21 AM   #86
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Love how these haters are making excuses/calling Kim a liar why Kim picked Serena.
IKR, Saint Kim would never lie. She spoke from the heart
They should ask the same for Justine, see who she would choose.
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IKR, Saint Kim would never lie. She spoke from the heart
They should ask the same for Justine, see who she would choose.
Kim Clijsters.
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It was quite obviously Henin and not Serena.

The 2009 US open is a great example of this.... possibly the most convincing defeat at a slam that Serena ever faced while in form.

She is just throwing Justine shade by saying that Serena was actually her toughest competition .

To think that Kim could have won 3 of the 4 slams in 2003 if she just got her head together sooner... .
Um no.
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If Kim hadn't turned around the H2H she easily could have said Venus over Henin. I think Kim was being honest and not attempting to throw shade at Justine like people here are suggesting. True enough Justine beat Kim for 3 GS titles but Kim blew a few big leads to Serena in very big matches. That is what determines how tough an opponent is. Kim was almost cruising to victory in the 3rd set of the USO 1999 and AO 2003 but Serena is such a fierce competitor and Kim was so weak mentally she couldn't close out the deal.


For what its worth Kim ABSOLUTELY deserved her USO 2009 title BUT I really feel like Serena wasn't "done" in that match and I say that because of those previous flops from Kim plus Serena's innate ability to pull herself from the brink. Not saying that Serena would have won necessarily but I definitely think she had it in her to keep that match going had the foot fault incident not occurred.
I disagree.

Serena knew the writing was on the wall that night.... thats alot of why she exploaded in the fashion that she did. When Serena is unable to dig herself out and is soundly beaten she tends to get irritated and frustrated.... which was quite obvious for all of us to see on that occasion.

She quite honestly couldnt afford to be having any sort of calls go against her that night because Kim had every answer to her game.

Serena is one of the greatest of all time, this is true. But lets not try to assume that Serena is this unbeatable goliath that can right any ship or stop any bleeding.

That night Kim was just too good, regardless of whether or not a Foot fault was called.

Her excellent return completely neutralized Serena's biggest weapon which is her Serve.

In addition Kim was moving and defending better and had just as much firepower off the ground.
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I disagree.

Serena knew the writing was on the wall that night.... thats alot of why she exploaded in the fashion that she did. When Serena is unable to dig herself out and is soundly beaten she tends to get irritated and frustrated.... which was quite obvious for all of us to see on that occasion.

She quite honestly couldnt afford to be having any sort of calls go against her that night because Kim had every answer to her game.

Serena is one of the greatest of all time, this is true. But lets not try to assume that Serena is this unbeatable goliath that can right any ship or stop any bleeding.

That night Kim was just too good, regardless of whether or not a Foot fault was called.

Her excellent return completely neutralized Serena's biggest weapon which is her Serve.

In addition Kim was moving and defending better and had just as much firepower off the ground.
Someones trying to reach out
FYI Serena serves totally different in 2009 compare to her 2010 and 2012 season
She started to tweak her serve in 2010
Learn ur facts!!ok?

btw thanks for making me laugh
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