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Old Jun 1st, 2013, 06:48 PM   #91
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Re: 2013 Race to Istanbul/Sofia - Week 21

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1 Williams 6960
2 Sharapova 5790
3 Azarenka 4950
4 Errani 3576
5 Radwanska 2936
6 Li 2680
7 Jankovic 2066
8 Kerber 2062
9 Kirilenko 2046
10 Kvitova 1991
11 Stephens 1897
12 Wozniacki 1775
13 Vinci 1752
14 Kuznetsova 1657
15 Ivanovic 1567
16 Suarez Navarro 1501
The race is beginning to heat up.

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Old Jun 1st, 2013, 06:51 PM   #92
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Re: 2013 Race to Istanbul/Sofia - Week 21

I didn't realize Sloane was so high on that list.
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Re: 2013 Race to Istanbul/Sofia - Week 21

It seems almost all best players (except Na and Petra, Caroline is in really bad slump)) reached R4 of RG
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Re: 2013 Race to Istanbul/Sofia - Week 21

If you eliminate all the voluntary minor points that most likely wont count on the ranking of a real YEC contender the race looks like this right now:

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Player / Points / Events Counted
1. S. Williams 5240 / 9
2. Sharapova 4670 / 8
3. Azarenka 4330 / 8
4. Errani 2775 / 10
5. Na Li 2555 / 8
6. A.Radwanska 2520 / 8
7. Kerber 1860 / 8
8. Jankovic 1725 / 8
9. Wozniacki 1590 / 7
10. Kvitova 1565 / 8
11. Kirilenko 1510 / 6
12. Stephens 1330 / 5
13. Suarez Navarro 1305 / 8
14. Vinci 1255 / 7
15. Ivanovic 1230 / 5
16. Kuznetsova 1080 / 5
17. Pavlyuchenkova 1000 / 8
18. Stosur 965 / 7
19. Barthel 830 / 7
20. Cibulkova / 820 6
21. Kanepi 820 / 6
22. Mattek-Sands 817 / 7
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Re: 2013 Race to Istanbul/Sofia - Week 21

Thank you Patrick.

I will do this next time I post but I think the best way to do it is to remove the excess events that is impossible to count. Eg. Wozniacki has 14 tournaments on her ranking, but there are 6 mandatories left, so she can't possibly count all 14 tournaments.

The problem with the way you have done it Patrick imo is some players won't necessarily need the best 16th results. Take the people with 5 events on your list, there is absolutely no way they are going to post 11 more results that fit your criteria. If you have some big results in your record, you don't necessarily need the best 16th best result.

Has the YEC ever had the same field 2 years in a row?
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Re: 2013 Race to Istanbul/Sofia - Week 21

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Thank you Patrick.

I will do this next time I post but I think the best way to do it is to remove the excess events that is impossible to count. Eg. Wozniacki has 14 tournaments on her ranking, but there are 6 mandatories left, so she can't possibly count all 14 tournaments.

The problem with the way you have done it Patrick imo is some players won't necessarily need the best 16th results. Take the people with 5 events on your list, there is absolutely no way they are going to post 11 more results that fit your criteria. If you have some big results in your record, you don't necessarily need the best 16th best result.

Has the YEC ever had the same field 2 years in a row?
I know. You basically need to interpret it the way that the amount of events counted is another measure of the level of play. If you have eight counted results you are in pretty good shape, because the 2nd half presents more non-mandatory events than the 1st half. If you only count six results you need to step it up in the 2nd half to have a shot at the YEC.

The way Serena/Vika/Sharapova are playing, it seems unlikely somebody can do the big result and a lot of minor points. The players that ultimately reach the YEC (from the #5 to #8 spot) will count no more than two voluntary results below 200 points imho. So right now it makes more sense than to add 4*70 points from voluntary results.
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Has the YEC ever had the same field 2 years in a row?
Was Stosur an alternate last year? She is not making the top 8. Bartoli also out of alternate spot.
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I meant the same top 8 only. Stosur replaced Kvitova last year as an alternate.
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I meant the same top 8 only. Stosur replaced Kvitova last year as an alternate.
Kvitova has been crap at the mandatory events. She is 18th currently and 13 players above her are still in the French Open. So shell lose more ground there. Shell need some big results in the 2nd half. Wozniacki would only rank 16th, if Vika had beaten her in IW quarterfinal. The top 6 look pretty secure. The rest is very tight.
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Kvitova is normally pretty good at winning events when the big players aren't around to log some points. I will be very surprised if the top 6 don't qualify, they all seem pretty secure.
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Re: 2013 Race to Istanbul/Sofia - Week 21

thanks patrick.

it is indeed a "silly" race when the point accimulated don't really say anything much for so many players.

the top5 players are winning so many points that really poor results to date are in the top20 running.
yes, the tour is really consistent now at the top, but some seeded players in slams are beyond hopeless most of the time.
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Kvitova is normally pretty good at winning events when the big players aren't around to log some points. I will be very surprised if the top 6 don't qualify, they all seem pretty secure.
Thats true. But last year she had 900 points each from the AO/FO (thanks to very kind draws). This year she has a total of 670 points from all five mandatory events so far. She still needed some huge results during the US hardcourt season. A US hardcourt season that Serena, Vika and Maria skipped almost completely last year to recover from the Olympics.
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Player / Points / Events Counted
1. S. Williams 5460 (9)
2. Sharapova 4890 (8)
3. Azarenka 4550 (8)
4. Errani 2995 (10)
5. A.Radwanska 2740 (8)
6. Na Li 2555 (8)
7. Jankovic 1945 (8)
8. Kerber 1860 (8)
9. Kirilenko 1730 (6)
10. Wozniacki 1590 (7)
11. Kvitova 1565 (8)
12. Stephens 1330 (5)
13. Suarez Navarro 1305 (8)
14. Kuznetsova 1300 (5)
15. Vinci 1255 (7)
16. Ivanovic 1230 (5)
17. Pavlyuchenkova 1000 (8)
18. Stosur 965 (7)
19. Barthel 830 (7)
20. Cibulkova 820 (6)
21. Kanepi 820 (6)
22. Mattek-Sands 817 (7)
23. Cornet 810 (5)
24. Hampton 771 (6)
25. Makarova 765 (5)
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What the point not to count all results this early in a season? We didn't reached point in a season when most of players have 16+ tournaments
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Jelena is 7th!
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