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Old Dec 13th, 2012, 01:04 AM   #16
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Re: Predict who will win the 2013 head-to-head between Sharapova and Azarenka

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I hope for a major power shift to happen in 2013, so the direct match-up between Maria and Vika will not be as important anymore. That's my humble hope...

As to the reality, I think Azarenka is generally stronger physically and technically, but is much, much weaker mentally. And that is impossible to predict. A win in AO may boost Azarenka for the whole year, while her unexpected early loss may put her down for a long time.



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Old Dec 13th, 2012, 02:25 AM   #17
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Re: Predict who will win the 2013 head-to-head between Sharapova and Azarenka

Well, this is a tricky one. I would like them to meet as much, or ideally even more, than they did in 2012 because their matches have this epic feeling about them all the time. I guess I'm in the minority that is fairly certain that quick courts actually favor Azarenka in this match-up (see the Beijing beatdown). So if they meet at Wimbledon and Maria is in claypova mode I would, indeed, expect a thrashing.

On quicker surfaces Azarenka's pace redirection will expose Maria's limited movement even more as she'll need to reach those balls quicker. Also, the court wouldn't take as much pace away from Maria's shots, allowing underpowered Azarenka to make the most of it.

Slower surfaces are where Maria is at her most dangerous nowadays, particularly on her forehand side. She just has much more time to load up on the shots, as she's the heaviest hitter on tour at the moment, alongside Serena. Though I do have to say that from the USO onwards there was visible progress in Sharapova hitting earlier on the forehand side without losing pace (probably from the training on grass), which hopefully further improves next year as she still is a power player.

Anywho, regarding the topic, I think they'll end up even at 4-4 or 5-4 for one of them. I'm not sure they'll be meeting on clay as Azarenka may not get that far (still pissed off Maria didn't face her in the finals of RG. That would've been a thing of beauty).
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Re: Predict who will win the 2013 head-to-head between Sharapova and Azarenka

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Old Dec 13th, 2012, 02:58 AM   #19
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Re: Predict who will win the 2013 head-to-head between Sharapova and Azarenka

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Re: Predict who will win the 2013 head-to-head between Sharapova and Azarenka

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I hope for a major power shift to happen in 2013, so the direct match-up between Maria and Vika will not be as important anymore. That's my humble hope...

As to the reality, I think Azarenka is generally stronger physically and technically, but is much, much weaker mentally. And that is impossible to predict. A win in AO may boost Azarenka for the whole year, while her unexpected early loss may put her down for a long time.
Honestly, I think mental strength is one area where Vika (uncharacteristically) had an edge on Maria in 2012 - that certainly accounted for the result of their US Open match at any rate.

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Well, this is a tricky one. I would like them to meet as much, or ideally even more, than they did in 2012 because their matches have this epic feeling about them all the time. I guess I'm in the minority that is fairly certain that quick courts actually favor Azarenka in this match-up (see the Beijing beatdown). So if they meet at Wimbledon and Maria is in claypova mode I would, indeed, expect a thrashing.

On quicker surfaces Azarenka's pace redirection will expose Maria's limited movement even more as she'll need to reach those balls quicker. Also, the court wouldn't take as much pace away from Maria's shots, allowing underpowered Azarenka to make the most of it.
I do agree that in terms of hardcourts, quicker ones favour Vika in this match-up (even though Vika generally is better on slower ones), and so Vika would probably beat Maria on a quick hardcourt (the very few genuinely quick HCs that are left - Stanford, Cincinnati, Beijing, Tokyo etc.) -- but I'm not sure I'd extend this to grass. Vika's footwork and defence is nowhere near as good on grass as it is on hardcourts, and without stellar footwork she becomes less consistent, and without that she's without her main weapon in this match-up. Plus, Maria's serve would get more cheap points / Vika's return would be neutralised a bit.

Also, just to play devil's advocate , although clay probably favours Maria, I'm not convinced that it's TOTALLY nid. Imo people are reading too much into Azarenka's weak performance at RG this year, she did actually play reasonably well at her other two claycourt tournaments this year and I think she will have decent results on it in her career. Even though clay will probably always be the one where Maria matches up best against Vika, I wouldn't necessarily expect Stuttgart-style matches in all their clay matches.

For me, the most encouraging thing about their YEC match was that Maria managed to win even though she wasn't outstanding, she just played tactically the right way. I was getting a little bit worried that she/her coach hadn't actually figured out how to play her at all, and that the Stuttgart and first set of the US Open match were just because Maria was on fire and that she wasn't actually consciously aware of what she was doing -- but the fact that in the YEC match, she wasn't striking the ball as well as she can, yet still won comfortably because she actually had a good gameplan, does give me some hope that they have figured her out since Stuttgart (and that their Beijing match was hopefully a blip).
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I hope for a major power shift to happen in 2013, so the direct match-up between Maria and Vika will not be as important anymore. That's my humble hope...

As to the reality, I think Azarenka is generally stronger physically and technically, but is much, much weaker mentally. And that is impossible to predict. A win in AO may boost Azarenka for the whole year, while her unexpected early loss may put her down for a long time.



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Re: Predict who will win the 2013 head-to-head between Sharapova and Azarenka

I think it will be pretty much like this year, with Azarenka winning most of their matches as she is the better, fitter
stronger and more resourceful player. Unlike María, she has a plan B in her game if things doesn´t work for her (USO semis) while Sharapova only tries to hit harder and harder. Like this year, I am afraid she will only loose to Maria on a bad day.
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Re: Predict who will win the 2013 head-to-head between Sharapova and Azarenka

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Re: Predict who will win the 2013 head-to-head between Sharapova and Azarenka

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Re: Predict who will win the 2013 head-to-head between Sharapova and Azarenka

Azarenka 4-2(-ish or 3-1)
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Re: Predict who will win the 2013 head-to-head between Sharapova and Azarenka

Depends on which Vika shows up.

Its hard to predict which way Vika will go after her first major season, could've a Kvitova like season for all we know. If she continues playing like she did at the majors this year, she should increase their H2H gap.
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I think it will be pretty much like this year, with Azarenka winning most of their matches as she is the better, fitter
stronger and more resourceful player. Unlike María, she has a plan B in her game if things doesn´t work for her (USO semis) while Sharapova only tries to hit harder and harder. Like this year, I am afraid she will only loose to Maria on a bad day.
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Re: Predict who will win the 2013 head-to-head between Sharapova and Azarenka

Depends how often they meet on clay/hc's..Hc's it seems Maria's figuring that part out, so it should make for fun rivalry.
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azarenka keeping up her beatdowns.
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Old Dec 13th, 2012, 11:40 AM   #30
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Re: Predict who will win the 2013 head-to-head between Sharapova and Azarenka

Vika is actually a decent player on clay, I mean she pushed Na extremely in their RG match in the year Na was flourishing on clay

Anyway in 2013 I predict:

V - M

Slow HC
2 - 0

Grass
0 - 1

Clay
0- 2

Indoor
0-1

Fast HC
1-1

so thats 3-5 in Maria's favour.
ofc indoor can be combined with any surface so take that into account

i would find it hilarious if they met like once next year after so many final meetings in 2012
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