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Old Dec 10th, 2012, 10:08 AM   #76
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

1. Maria Sharapova
2. Victoria Azarenka
3. Petra Kvitova
4. Serena Williams
5. Agnieszka Radwanska
6. Sara Errani
7. Li Na
8. Angelique Kerber

9. Petrova, Nadia
10. Dominica Cibulkova
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

In no order: S. Williams, Sharapova, Azarenka, Kvitova, Radwanska, Ivanovic, Wozniacka, Kerber.

Alternate: Stosur #9, someone random #10.
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

1). Serena
2). Vika
3). Sharapova
4). Kvitova
5). Venus
6). Li
7). Kerber
8). Barthel

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9). Samantha
10). Radwanska
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Old Dec 10th, 2012, 02:11 PM   #79
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

1. Azarenka
2. Kvitova
3. Serena
4. Sharapova
5. Li
6. Wozniacki
7. A.Radwanska
8. Kerber
9. Bartoli
10. Robson
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Old Dec 10th, 2012, 02:44 PM   #80
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

Ivanovic and Kirilenko are mostly unable to beat the players inside the Top10 (or even in the Top20 actually) so I would be very surprised to see them integrating the Top10.

Cibulkova, Safarova, Kanepi, Goerges and Lisicki have everything it takes but injuries or inconsistency have always prevented them to reach this goal. I don't see why it should change suddenly.

Bartoli is always close but always falls short.

No one among the youngest players gives me the impression of being ready for a real breakthrough, although here we must expect some surprises.

IMO, Makarova and Barthel are making steady progresses and I'll follow them closely.

Schiavone is getting older and is probably close to her retirement. Kuznetsova and Jankovic: well, no one knows what to expect from them.

Taking into account these elements it's difficult to predict significant changes for 2013. So here are my predictions:

1- Azarenka: since her game is about controlled aggression and tactical choices it allows her to be incredibly consistent. She could very well stay at the top of the ranking.

2- Kvitova: in 2012 she was still crushing most of her opponents ranked among the Top20/30. As soon as she will recover the capacity of defeating the other Top10, she will move up the ranking.

3- Sharapova: I thought she would end about the 8th rank in 2012, but she proved me wrong. She seems to have recovered her game, so she could well stay in the Top3.

4- Serena: as good as she is, she doesn't play enough to really compete for the top spot(s). In 2012, she played what was the closest thing of a full schedule for her. She won more than 93% of her matches and was still unable to reach the number one spot. I dont think she can do better than a 3th or 4th rank.

5- Kerber: she's fairly consistent and, as a Top10 player, she'll have easier draws in 2013 than in 2012. If she keeps the same intensity, she'll remain among the best.

6- A. Radwanska.

7- Stosur

8- Wozniacki: that's more a hope than a prediction if she doesn't improve.

9- Robson

10 - Zvonareva
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Old Dec 11th, 2012, 02:25 PM   #81
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

If no specific orders mentioned, the players you entered first will be counted as #1.

Not listing alts will not alter your rankings if other players who indicated alts got incorrect.
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Old Dec 11th, 2012, 02:34 PM   #82
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

1. M Sharapova
2. S Williams
3. V Azarenka
4. P Kvitova
5. A Ivanovic
6. C Wozniacki
7. N Petrova
8. A Radwanska

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9. A Kerber
10. S Stosur
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

1 - Serena
2 - Azarenka
3 - Sharapova
4 - Kvitova
5 - Radwanska
6 - Li Na
7 - Kerber
8 - Stosur
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9 - Wozniacki
10 - Venus
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

1. Kvitova
2. Azarenka
3. Sharapova
4. Serena
5. Li
6. A.Radwanska
7. Wozniacki
8. Venus
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10. Kanepi
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

1. Sharapova
2. Williams
3. Kvitova
4. Kerber
5. Azarenka
6. Li
7. Radwanska
8. Bartoli
9. Stosur
10.Ivanovic
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Old Dec 11th, 2012, 09:20 PM   #86
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

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Ivanovic and Kirilenko are mostly unable to beat the players inside the Top10 (or even in the Top20 actually) so I would be very surprised to see them integrating the Top10.

Cibulkova, Safarova, Kanepi, Goerges and Lisicki have everything it takes but injuries or inconsistency have always prevented them to reach this goal. I don't see why it should change suddenly.

Bartoli is always close but always falls short.

No one among the youngest players gives me the impression of being ready for a real breakthrough, although here we must expect some surprises.

IMO, Makarova and Barthel are making steady progresses and I'll follow them closely.

Schiavone is getting older and is probably close to her retirement. Kuznetsova and Jankovic: well, no one knows what to expect from them.

Taking into account these elements it's difficult to predict significant changes for 2013. So here are my predictions:

1- Azarenka: since her game is about controlled aggression and tactical choices it allows her to be incredibly consistent. She could very well stay at the top of the ranking.

2- Kvitova: in 2012 she was still crushing most of her opponents ranked among the Top20/30. As soon as she will recover the capacity of defeating the other Top10, she will move up the ranking.

3- Sharapova: I thought she would end about the 8th rank in 2012, but she proved me wrong. She seems to have recovered her game, so she could well stay in the Top3.

4- Serena: as good as she is, she doesn't play enough to really compete for the top spot(s). In 2012, she played what was the closest thing of a full schedule for her. She won more than 93% of her matches and was still unable to reach the number one spot. I dont think she can do better than a 3th or 4th rank.
Those 4th round and 1st round losses at AO and FO are what's holding her back. I doubt she'll replicate performances as poor as those in 2013. She may not win both, but she should reach at least the 4th round at both
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

1. serena
2. azarenka
3. Sharapova
4. kvitova
5. kerber
6. Radwanska
7. venus
8. stosur
9. robson
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Old Dec 12th, 2012, 12:03 AM   #88
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

1. Vika Azarenka
2 Serena Williams
3. Maria Sharapova
4. Agnieszka Radwanska
5. Angelique Kerber
6. Sara Errani
7. Petra Kvitova
8. Sam Stosur
9. Caro Wozniacki
10. Andrea Petkovic
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Old Dec 12th, 2012, 02:05 AM   #89
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

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Those 4th round and 1st round losses at AO and FO are what's holding her back. I doubt she'll replicate performances as poor as those in 2013. She may not win both, but she should reach at least the 4th round at both
I agree with the bolded part, but it would not have made any difference in 2012. With these two 4th round, she would have had 9675 pts, 370 less than Sharapova and 920 under Azarenka. Even if we replace her bad results by 2 QF, she is only tied with Sharapova and still under Azarenka by 480 pts.

Since 2012 was truly exceptional for Serena, with 7 titles, over 90% of matches won and only 4 losses, we can rationally doubt that she'll replicate these results in 2013. Especially since she'll probably play less next year - as an example, I'm not sure she will replace the Olympics by another tournament. All in all, she has a really small margin to improve her results.

OTOH, it is very possible that her top opponents experienced a decline of their own results. Then, Serena would have a chance for the Top3, or even for the number one. But if anyone reaches 9000 ranking points or more, she won't be able to compete with it. At least, that's how I see it.
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Re: Challenge: Predict the Top 8 of 2013

1. Azarenka
2. S. Williams
3. Sharapova
4. Kvitova
5. A. Radwanska
6. Wozniacki
7. Kerber
8. V. Williams

9. Li
10. Petrova
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