View Poll Results: Peak on grass?
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Sharapova
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21.43% |
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Novotna
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20.41% |
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Davenport
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52.04% |
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Hingis
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Dec 7th, 2012, 01:56 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
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Originally Posted by StoneRose
Novotna was great on grass.
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it was Sampras-era grass , not Nadal-era grass
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Dec 7th, 2012, 01:57 PM
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#32
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
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Originally Posted by NashaMasha
it was Sampras-era grass , not Nadal-era grass
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aka real grass
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Dec 7th, 2012, 02:04 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
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it was Sampras-era grass , not Nadal-era grass
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True. And it makes the comparison difficult because player 1 on grass 1 is compared to player 2 on grass 2. Still i loved watching Jana play on grass she could be completely dominating on that surface in her time, more than the other players mentioned i feel.
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Dec 7th, 2012, 02:07 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
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LMAO at Maria hating on this forum again  NID
Peak Pova would humiliate all these bishes on any sort grass, banging down the aces and working the angles like there's no tomorrow. Novotna and Wingis would never know what hit them in the first place...as for Davenport, we have 2004 match on display, where inexperienced teen Masha dismissed peak Lindsay with authority in the final set. Nuff said 
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2004 grass season was not peak Davenport, she even considered retirement after that stupid SF mental loss... 99/05 was her peak on grass.
Anyway, peak Sharapova lost to peak Mauresmo on grass in 2006, and Mauresmo has a very similar grass court tennis as Novotna, so how Sharapova would "humiliate" anyone is ridiculous.
Gladly the poll is showing the real results 
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Dec 7th, 2012, 02:09 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
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aka real grass
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also true , but we still shouldn't create peak S&V vs peak baseliners threads, as they just played on different surfaces using different racquets
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Dec 7th, 2012, 02:14 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
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Novotna is easily the best of those. Sharapova, lol, what a joke, she isnt even that good a grass courter, in 2004 she played only one good match in the final to win it. Davenport is good but her poor movement is a really bad factor against her on grass. She might beat Jana in head to head due to the matchup but vs the field she would do much worse. Hingis is a lightweight on grass, lucked out to win a fluke Wimbledon in a year of a super weak grass field, and Jana injured and choking in the final.
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peak Sharapova on grass can be beaten only by peak Williamses, like by Venus in 2005 . Novotna was great on grass , but with her serve and volley game she won't look the same on contemporary slowed down surface
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 what a load of bullshit! 2004 Sharapova on grass was two games away being beaten by Sugiyama in QF and down a set and a break before the rain break in SF. Sharapova used to be really great on grass, but stop projecting her peak to the unbeatable level.
and the surface at Wimbledon was still relatively faster in 04 than the recent years
Sharapova was struggling against Peak Mauresmo on grass in 06. Let alone beating Novotna 
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Dec 7th, 2012, 02:27 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
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please get banned again. thank you
 what a load of bullshit! 2004 Sharapova on grass was two games away being beaten by Sugiyama in QF and down a set and a break before the rain break in SF. Sharapova used to be really great on grass, but stop projecting her peak to the unbeatable level.
and the surface at Wimbledon was still relatively faster in 04 than the recent years
Sharapova was struggling against Peak Mauresmo on grass in 06. Let alone beating Novotna 
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peak Mauresmo vs not peak Sharapova , in the second set Masha managed to return to her best for a while and from 1-3 turned it to 6-3, winning 6 games in a row
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Dec 7th, 2012, 02:30 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
Hingis hit 50 winners and 10 errors in her Wimbledon '97 final victory over Novotna, who was playing the "best grass court tennis ever by a woman" according to GOAT Chris Evert.
Your fav could NEVER and has NEVER had a winner/error ratio like that, let alone in a Wimbledon final.
That being said, grass was Hingis' weakest surface, and although her peak level of play on any other court in the world is FAR past scrubs like Sharapova, on this one surface it is up for debate.
Novotna > Davenport > Hingis = Vulturepova
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Dec 7th, 2012, 02:33 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
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Originally Posted by NashaMasha
peak Mauresmo vs not peak Sharapova , in the second set Masha managed to return to her best for a while and from 1-3 turned it to 6-3, winning 6 games in a row
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how mighty peak pova has fallen, peaking for only 35 minutes in a full match to win 6 games in a row
stop reaching. you can't just cherry pick a certain time interval in one whole match and claim it's her peak and the rest of her play in the same match is not peak.
if 06 isn't peak pova against Amelie, what about her matches against Mauresmo in 04 YEC or 05 YEC? wait, were they also not-peak pova? 
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Dec 7th, 2012, 02:41 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
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how mighty peak pova has fallen, peaking for only 35 minutes in a full match to win 6 games in a row
stop reaching. you can't just cherry pick a certain time interval in one whole match and claim it's her peak and the rest of her play in the same match is not peak.
if 06 isn't peak pova against Amelie, what about her matches against Mauresmo in 04 YEC or 05 YEC? wait, were they also not-peak pova? 
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and 06USO , the same Mauresmo was trashed by peak Pova , Sharapova form always has sinusoidal curve, her peak is very high but she reaches it for a very short period
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Dec 7th, 2012, 02:44 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
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and 06USO , the same Mauresmo was trashed by peak Pova , Sharapova form always has sinusoidal curve, her peak is very high but she reaches it for a very short period
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Mauresmo was in really bad form at that event, she nearly went out to some Santengelo girl in the 3rd round, was down 3-0 in the 3rd set, then was fed a bagel by Serena Williams who was in her career worst form and shape at the time. Plus that is fast outdoor hard courts, her worst surface, and probably Sharapova's best. No wonder Maria got her only ever win over Amelie there. Mauresmo at her best is easily better than Sharapova on grass, so is Novotna. Davenport is more debateable but I would favor the Davenport of Wimbledon 99 or 2001 over Sharapova on grass too.
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Dec 7th, 2012, 02:48 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
Surprised Davenport is leading Novotna on this poll. Davenport would never be leading a prime Graf in a Wimbledon final deep into a 3rd set like Jana was doing in the 1993 final. Novotna in her prime pretty much only lost to Graf on grass, and once to Hingis when injured. Davenport in her prime lost to Tauziat at Wimbledon one time.
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Dec 7th, 2012, 03:34 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
Pains me to say that Maria isn't the best but...
Davenport>Sharapova>Novotna>Hingis
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Dec 7th, 2012, 03:40 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
This is the only poll where Legend deserves to lose. 
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Dec 7th, 2012, 03:43 PM
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Re: Peak on Grass: Sharapova VS Novotna VS Davenport VS Hingis?
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and 06USO , the same Mauresmo was trashed by peak Pova , Sharapova form always has sinusoidal curve, her peak is very high but she reaches it for a very short period
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 your desperation is amusing.
I didn't know Pova had this "arbitrary" peak period. Again, what happened to Peak Pova in 04 YEC RR and 05 YEC SF against the "same" Mauresmo? Or is that a case of "sinusoidal curve" again? How terrible is that curve thing, affecting her peak form as much as her should injury did! 
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