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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 05:58 PM   #31
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Das ist doch schon mal was, worauf man aufbauen kann..man kann alles überbewerten und auf die Goldwaage legen..an dem Satz finde ich nichts schlimm oder anzüglich.
Aufbauen sollte man auf Talent, alles andere ist höchstens ein netter Bonus...kein Must-Have.
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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 06:04 PM   #32
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Aufbauen sollte man auf Talent, alles andere ist höchstens ein netter Bonus...kein Must-Have.
Es wird ja auch nur bei denen betont, die es haben. Nur Talent alleine reicht eben heute nicht mehr. Das komplette Paket muss stimmen.
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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 06:05 PM   #33
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Und das es das muss ist eben der Kritikpunkt. Muss es ja bei den Männern im Sport auch nicht...bloss bei den Frauen. Und genau das ist sexistisch...aber das scheint für dich ja völlig normal zu sein.
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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 06:06 PM   #34
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Ich höre und lese auch keine grosse Kritik an den Kampagnen. Wozu auch.
Görges hat dazu aber überhaupt keine Lust. Wenn das mal ein paar kritische Journalisten bemerken, hat die WTA ein Problem.
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Liegt vielleicht daran, dass der größte Teil der Sportjournalisten männlich ist.
Ja, sicher. In dem Metier haben Frauen es immer noch sehr schwer. Und für die Offiziellen gilt das auch. Die gehen nicht mit gutem Beispiel voran.
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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 06:07 PM   #36
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Das Qualidraw ist da.

1.Runde
(1)Tayisiya Morderger - bye
(wc)Elena Rief - Nora Niedmers
Jessica Raith - Lisa Brinkmann
(8)Vinja Lehmann - bye

(2)Laura Schaeder - bye
Carina Litfin - (wc)Natalie Pröse
Ann-Kathrin Wind - Sina Niketta
(7)Carmen Smolka - bye

(3)Charlotte Klasen - bye
Theresa Kleinsteuber - Julia Thiem
Alexandra Bezmenov - (wc)Jil Nora Engelmann
(5)Stefanie Stemmer - bye

(4)Lena Lutzeier - bye
Katharina Hobgarski - Nina-Isabella Scholten
Caroline Übelhör - (wc)Paula Götz
(6)Rosalie Willig - bye

Gespielt wird morgen die 1.Qualirunde, am Montag dann die 2. und auch die 3.Qualirunde.
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Ich würde mir wünschen das sich daran mehr Spielerinnen ein Beispiel nehmen. Ich hoffe ja immer noch das es Barthel bis ganz nach oben schafft, irgendwann wird die peinliche Art und Weise wie die WTA mit ihr umgeht dann wohl auch einer breiten Masse auffallen.
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Und das es das muss ist eben der Kritikpunkt. Muss es ja bei den Männern im Sport auch nicht...bloss bei den Frauen. Und genau das ist sexistisch...aber das scheint für dich ja völlig normal zu sein.
Es gehört doch überall dazu. Ich finde das absolut nicht schlimm. Es ist ja auch nicht so, dass weniger attraktive Frauen ausgebuht werden, sie haben halt nicht diese Möglichkeiten..mag ungerecht sein, aber ist nun mal in jeder Branche so...und es ist doch ziemlich weltfremd, davon zu reden, es sei Sport und es kommt nur darauf an.
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Görges hat dazu aber überhaupt keine Lust. Wenn das mal ein paar kritische Journalisten bemerken, hat die WTA ein Problem.
Wegen Görges? Und weshalb hat die WTA dann ein Problem?
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Dann hätte die WTA wirklich ein Problem.
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Ja, sicher. In dem Metier haben Frauen es immer noch sehr schwer. Und für die Offiziellen gilt das auch. Die gehen nicht mit gutem Beispiel voran.
Die WTA Präsidentin ist eine Frau. Und auch die setzt eben vermehrt auf die optische Vermarktung.
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Es gehört doch überall dazu. Ich finde das absolut nicht schlimm. Es ist ja auch nicht so, dass weniger attraktive Frauen ausgebuht werden, sie haben halt nicht diese Möglichkeiten..mag ungerecht sein, aber ist nun mal in jeder Branche so...und es ist doch ziemlich weltfremd, davon zu reden, es sei Sport und es kommt nur darauf an.
Nein das ist nicht weltfremd und es ist auch längst nicht in jeder Branche so. Ich weiss ja nicht in was für einer Welt du lebst aber das Frauen primär nach ihrem Äusseren beurteilt werden ist durchaus nicht normal.
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Ich würde mir wünschen das sich daran mehr Spielerinnen ein Beispiel nehmen. Ich hoffe ja immer noch das es Barthel bis ganz nach oben schafft, irgendwann wird die peinliche Art und Weise wie die WTA mit ihr umgeht dann wohl auch einer breiten Masse auffallen.

Was tut die WTA denn der Barthel???????????
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Nein das ist nicht weltfremd und es ist auch längst nicht in jeder Branche so. Ich weiss ja nicht in was für einer Welt du lebst aber das Frauen primär nach ihrem Äusseren beurteilt werden ist durchaus nicht normal.
Es spielt immer eine Rolle. Alles andere ist doch nun wirklich Träumerei.
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Wegen Görges? Und weshalb hat die WTA dann ein Problem?
Weil eine der besseren aussehenden Spielerinnen das ganze eben ablehnt und damit die ganze Konzept hinfällig ist.

Man sieht ja an der Vergabe der TV-Rechten, wie populär die WTA hier in Europa ist.
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