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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 05:37 PM   #16
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Es geht nicht darum was sich wie verkauft oder was du dir gerne ansiehst. Tennis ist ein Sport und da zählen Ergebnisse und sonst gar nichts...komischerweise ist die Optik beim Männersport nie ein Thema. Ich hör jedenfalls nie so Sachen wie "Der überaus attraktive Marco Reus... usw.".

Es ist und bleibt sexistisch.
Es geht eben doch darum was die Zuschauer sehen wollen..nicht umsonst setzt die WTA so vermehr auf die Optik...

und auch bei den Männern wird es immer mehr ein Thema, schau Dir doch Gomez an...

Ja, es ist sexistisch - und?
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Es geht eben doch darum was die Zuschauer sehen wollen..nicht umsonst setzt die WTA so vermehr auf die Optik...

und auch bei den Männern wird es immer mehr ein Thema, schau Dir doch Gomez an...

Ja, es ist sexistisch - und?
Sexismus ist eine Form der Diskriminierung und damit nichts, was zum Tennis gehören darf.
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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 05:47 PM   #18
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Es geht eben doch darum was die Zuschauer sehen wollen..nicht umsonst setzt die WTA so vermehr auf die Optik...
Das tut sie und es wird zurecht auch scharf kritisiert.
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Dagegen muss man angehen.
Ihr habt natürlich recht. Aber wie soll man denn dagegen angehen?

@Saraya: Wie heißt es doch? Schönheit liegt im Auge des Betrachters. So viel zu Wozniacki.
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Das ist jetzt nicht dein Ernst, oder? Schon Tauziat beschwerte sich damals ewig, dass die wesentlich attraktiveren Frauen wie Kournikova und Sabatini so bevorzugt werden ( bessere Courts, bessere Werbeeinnahmen, höhere Startgelder, mehr Aufmerksamkeit)..es ist halt so...
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Das tut sie und es wird zurecht auch scharf kritisiert.
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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 05:50 PM   #22
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Indem z.b. Offizielle mit gutem Beispiel voran gehen. Wenn schon der Turnierdirektor der Deutschen Meisterschaften mit blumigen Worten von den optischen Vorzügen einer 16jährigen (!!) schwärmt muss man sich nicht wundern wenn das auf's Publikum abfärbt.
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Ihr habt natürlich recht. Aber wie soll man denn dagegen angehen?

@Saraya: Wie heißt es doch? Schönheit liegt im Auge des Betrachters. So viel zu Wozniacki.
Ja, genau..deshalb wird sie auch überall gefeiert, hat ihre gut dotierten Werbeverträge und ihre vielen Fans..an ihrem Traumtennis wird das wohl weniger liegen...
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Von wem?
Nicht von dir, wir haben mittlerweile verstanden das du absolut obrigkeitshörig bist und jegliches Wort von offizieller Seite als Dogma ansiehst, keine Sorge. Aber es gibt halt auch noch Menschen und Journalisten die sich kritisch mit dem Sport auseinandersetzen.
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Indem z.b. Offizielle mit gutem Beispiel voran gehen. Wenn schon der Turnierdirektor der Deutschen Meisterschaften mit blumigen Worten von den optischen Vorzügen einer 16jährigen (!!) schwärmt muss man sich nicht wundern wenn das auf's Publikum abfärbt.
Findest Du das nicht reichlich weltfremd? Sollen die in Säcken spielen? Natürlich geht es auch um das Aussehen, ist doch vollkommen klar.
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Nicht von dir, wir haben mittlerweile verstanden das du absolut obrigkeitshörig bist und jegliches Wort von offizieller Seite als Dogma ansiehst, keine Sorge. Aber es gibt halt auch noch Menschen und Journalisten die sich kritisch mit dem Sport auseinandersetzen.
Obrigkeitshörig? Nein..aber blind bin ich nicht...und wie gesagt ist es doch verständlich, wenn man gerade bei den Damen auf Glamour und Schönheit setzt...
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Findest Du das nicht reichlich weltfremd? Sollen die in Säcken spielen? Natürlich geht es auch um das Aussehen, ist doch vollkommen klar.
Es ist doch absolut peinlich wenn man zu einem der grössten deutschen Tennistalente nicht mehr zu sagen hat als "Die sieht super aus!". Von dem Geschmäckle das das ganze hat wenn ein erwachsener Mann so über ein minderjähriges Mädchen in der Öffentlichkeit urteilt mal abgesehen, ich finde das befremdlich.
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Es geht nicht darum was sich wie verkauft oder was du dir gerne ansiehst. Tennis ist ein Sport und da zählen Ergebnisse und sonst gar nichts...komischerweise ist die Optik beim Männersport nie ein Thema. Ich hör jedenfalls nie so Sachen wie "Der überaus attraktive Marco Reus... usw.".

Es ist und bleibt sexistisch.
Liegt vielleicht daran, dass der größte Teil der Sportjournalisten männlich ist.
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Es ist doch absolut peinlich wenn man zu einem der grössten deutschen Tennistalente nicht mehr zu sagen hat als "Die sieht super aus!". Von dem Geschmäckle das das ganze hat wenn ein erwachsener Mann so über ein minderjähriges Mädchen in der Öffentlichkeit urteilt mal abgesehen, ich finde das befremdlich.
Das ist doch schon mal was, worauf man aufbauen kann..man kann alles überbewerten und auf die Goldwaage legen..an dem Satz finde ich nichts schlimm oder anzüglich.
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Liegt vielleicht daran, dass der größte Teil der Sportjournalisten männlich ist.
Ich höre und lese auch keine grosse Kritik an den Kampagnen. Wozu auch.
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