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Queen Maria, obviously. 185 68.01%
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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 05:21 PM   #46
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

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Who? Quite a lot of us think Maria's peak could potentially be in the next 1 or 2 years

If you look at Maria's upwards trajectory since the surgery, it's probably been even more dramatic than Vika's (Maria's game had bigger improvements in 2012 compared to 2011 than Vika's did, I would say). So there's really no evidence atall that Vika is going to constantly improve from hereon while Maria is going to slide. Don't forget Azarenka is only 2 years younger than Maria, although admittedly it's easy to forget that seeing as Maria started playing spectacularly at a far earlier age than Vika did.
This to all.
Maria currently isn't as good as she was in parts of 2006 and 2008 but there's no reason for us to feel that she's not going to get back to that level or exceed it in the next couple of years.
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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 06:36 PM   #47
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Who? Quite a lot of us think Maria's peak could potentially be in the next 1 or 2 years

If you look at Maria's upwards trajectory since the surgery, it's probably been even more dramatic than Vika's (Maria's game had bigger improvements in 2012 compared to 2011 than Vika's did, I would say). So there's really no evidence atall that Vika is going to constantly improve from hereon while Maria is going to slide. Don't forget Azarenka is only 2 years younger than Maria, although admittedly it's easy to forget that seeing as Maria started playing spectacularly at a far earlier age than Vika did.
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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 06:39 PM   #48
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I like how this has become a self-assuring therapy session for Sharapova stans to comfort each other
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I like how this has become a self-assuring therapy session for Sharapova stans to comfort each other
Grow up

First of all you can't even predict the future, how do you know who has hit their peak and who hasn't? Maria showed that she can beat Extremely Injured on a hard court as she proved in their last match of the year. Shouldn't it be worrying that someone who hasn't hit their peak yet is getting routined by someone who is passed it? Second of all, there is a lot of things Maria can improve on; just because you hate her doesn't mean she can't play tennis
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I like how 4 is 4 times more than 1.
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Grow up

First of all you can't even predict the future, how do you know who has hit their peak and who hasn't?
Just a few weeks ago there was pretty much unanimous consent among her fans that pre-surgery Sharapova was sooo much better and how she will never get there again etc. Weird how nobody wants to remember that right now

I'm not worried about the YEC match at all as Vika was obviously low on energy all week and was just looking for the season to be over with. Bejing a few weeks back shows us where they stand on HC...and it's a world apart.
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Re: PEAK Maria vs PEAK Vika

I'm going to go another route on this. I'm willing to say Peak Pova/Vika based on their best shots at their peaks. So it's Pova's serve versus Vika's return. Then it's a lot closer than many would think, but I'd still give the edge to Peak Pova.

That said, I'm personally excited that tennis has a rivalry again. Vika and Maria compliment each other well and Maria is well on her way to becoming the Grand Dame of the women's game.
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Just a few weeks ago there was pretty much unanimous consent among her fans that pre-surgery Sharapova was sooo much better and how she will never get there again etc. Weird how nobody wants to remember that right now

I'm not worried about the YEC match at all as Vika was obviously low on energy all week and was just looking for the season to be over with. Bejing a few weeks back shows us where they stand on HC...and it's a world apart.
Well she was better than she is now, but that doesn't mean she can't get back there and improve.

And at your bottom statement, what a lame excuse, she shouldn't have wasted her energy in Linz then. You can't just pick a match where your fave won and say that she's better. Maria was absolute garbage in Beijing final. Maria changed her gameplan drastically in those two matches. In Beijing, she was trying to brainlessly hit through Extremely Injured whereas in their YEC match she constructed points much better and used the width of the court beautifully.
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And at your bottom statement, what a lame excuse, she shouldn't have wasted her energy in Linz then. You can't just pick a match where your fave won and say that she's better. Maria was absolute garbage in Beijing final. Maria changed her gameplan drastically in those two matches. In Beijing, she was trying to brainlessly hit through Extremely Injured whereas in their YEC match she constructed points much better and used the width of the court beautifully.
It's not a lame excuse as Vika's game clearly suffering from the same symptoms against Kerber and Na as well. Was that somehow Sharapova's doing as well?

In hindsight I love how this match has given her fans false confidence as far as this matchup is concerned. Unfortunately I don't think Sharapova herself is dumb enough to believe that she somehow "figured Vika out", one can always hope though
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Old Dec 8th, 2012, 07:01 PM   #55
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Just a few weeks ago there was pretty much unanimous consent among her fans that pre-surgery Sharapova was sooo much better and how she will never get there again etc. Weird how nobody wants to remember that right now

I'm not worried about the YEC match at all as Vika was obviously low on energy all week and was just looking for the season to be over with. Bejing a few weeks back shows us where they stand on HC...and it's a world apart.
Pre-surgery Sharapova was indeed so much better but when was there ever a consent she can't improve from where she's now?

And just as you say Beijing shows where they both stand on HC I could say YEC does and we'd both be wrong. Vika was far from her best in their Istanbul match but so was Maria in Beijing.
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And just as you say Beijing shows where they both stand on HC I could say YEC does and we'd both be wrong. Vika was far from her best in their Istanbul match but so was Maria in Beijing.
The difference is that there are three other HC matches to back up Vika's Beijing performance while the YEC match was an isolated win for Sharapova.
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The difference is that there are three other HC matches to back up Vika's Beijing performance while the YEC match was an isolated win for Sharapova.
And that's why I believe current Vika is clearly better than current Maria on HC. But why is it that specific match that shows where they stand while Maria has played a lot better than that on HCs this year? My point is that the difference between them is much less than a world apart as you seem to believe.
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It's not a lame excuse as Vika's game clearly suffering from the same symptoms against Kerber and Na as well. Was that somehow Sharapova's doing as well?

In hindsight I love how this match has given her fans false confidence as far as this matchup is concerned. Unfortunately I don't think Sharapova herself is dumb enough to believe that she somehow "figured Vika out", one can always hope though
Why does Maria have you so pressed?
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Just a few weeks ago there was pretty much unanimous consent among her fans that pre-surgery Sharapova was sooo much better and how she will never get there again etc. Weird how nobody wants to remember that right now

I'm not worried about the YEC match at all as Vika was obviously low on energy all week and was just looking for the season to be over with. Bejing a few weeks back shows us where they stand on HC...and it's a world apart.
Again, quotes or it didn't happen. We had a discussion in her subforum a few weeks ago how her peak level of play could still potentially be ahead of her. "Potentially" being the key word -- none of us are claiming we know for sure what will happen, and it could be that what you predict turns out to be true. But there's nothing guaranteed that Vika will improve more than Maria in the future, just as it turns out it wasn't guaranteed that Wozniacki's peak was ahead of her despite your hysterical insistences one bandwagon ago.
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